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Barriers to the Employment of Older Workers
Author(s): Albert J. Abrams
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Published by: Sage Publications, Inc. in association with the American Academy of Political and
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Barriers the Employmentof OlderWorkers
By ALBERTJ. ABRAMS

T

HERE are two main types of barriers that hinder the older job applicant-the indirect and the direct.
The indirect type is found in industrial
processes and techniques which exclude
older job seekers though not instituted
primarily to do so. (These include restricted-entry jobs, promotion-fromwithin systems, pensions, unvalidated
medical and psychological tests, timepressure tasks, and certain union regulations.) The indirect type of barrieris
also found in culture bars within and
without industry which have an impact
on industry, such as glorification of
youth, upward gradients, a high-energy
society, and success values based on
job status and monetary return.
The direct type is found in the following: written rules excluding job
seekers over a predetermined chronological age; unwritten rules followed
by hiring or screening authorities to
bar applicants over a predetermined
chronological age; deficiencies of the
older worker, whether in training, adjustability, or preparation for job seeking; and lack of public or private counseling and placement service geared to
older job seekers.
It should be emphasized that barriers against older job seekers are not
peculiar to American industry. There
is evidence that they exist in underdeveloped and agrarian economies as
well as in industrial societies, and in
statist as well as democratic regimes.
The extent and intensity of such obstacles may vary depending upon a
host of factors, such as the significance
of work in the culture, the role assigned
to older persons in the family, and provision of work substitutes; but through-

out the world, employers generally are
not eager to hire older persons.
MEASURESOF FORMALAGE BARRIERS

The resistance of employers to the
employment of older workers is indicated by three post-World War II surveys. A community-wide study of 38
firms employing 62,828 workers in
Rochester, New York indicated that
29.5 per cent of the companies imposed
a maximumage limit "above which new
employees are not ordinarily hired."1
A state-wide survey by State Senator
Thomas C. Desmond, chairman of the
New York State Joint Legislative Committee on Problems of the Aging, disclosed that 39 per cent of 172 companies admitted imposing formal aging
barriers.2
A nation-wide joint survey of 277
concerns by the National Association of
Manufacturers and the United States
Chamber of Commerce in 1949 indicated that 26 per cent of the firms "did
not follow a practice" of hiring older
workers.3
The NAM two decades earlier had
conducted a similar inquiry and found
that 28 per cent of the firms had such
age barriers.4
1Industrial Management Council, Community Survey of Employment of the Elderly,
Rochester, N. Y., Jan. 1, 1948, 7 pp.
2 Albert
J. Abrams, "Industry Views its
Elderly Workers," in Birthdays Don't Count
(Albany, N. Y.: New York State Joint Legislative Committee on Problems of the Aging,
Leg. Doc. 61 of 1948), pp. 152-53.
3National Association of Manufacturers,
Industrial Relations Department Report, Employment of the Physically Handicapped and
Older Workers (New York, 1949), p. 15.
4National Association of Manufacturers,

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A 1930 study of firms in New York
State concluded that "in approximately
one-quarter of the moderate-sized and
large companies including 40 per cent
of the jobs in the state, the older person
would encounter an insurmountablehiring bar. His chances of being accepted
would be practically zero." 5
Thus over a period of twenty years,
from one-quarter to two-fifths of firms
queried in various surveys have admitted the imposition of direct formal
barriers.
These figures are only suggestive. A
more realistic yardstick to measure the
prevalence of formal age barriers is
the data in job orders filed with public
employment service agencies. A study
made in 1950 showed that in New
York State, of 3,500 job openings 25
per cent had an age limitation; in
Columbus, Ohio, of 3,925 openings 81
per cent had age restrictions for women,
75 per cent for men; in Lancaster,
Pennsylvania of 511 openings 60 per
cent had age restrictions; in Birmingham, Alabama 90 per cent of the openings, and in Dallas, Texas 50 per cent,
specified age restrictions.6
Another measurement of age bias is
the extent to which "help wanted" advertisements contain such restrictions.
A recent analysis of 3,474 job opportunities for males advertised in the
New York Times showed that 38.2 per
cent included an age limitation.7
Public Old Age Pensions (New York, 1930),
p. 24.
5 Solomon Barkin, "The Older Worker in
Industry,"in Report of the Joint Legislative
Committee on Unemployment,
Leg. Doc. 66,
1933 (Albany, N. Y.: J. B. Lyon Co.), pp.
190-204.
6 U. S. Dept. of Labor, Bureau of Employment Security,Older WorkersSeek Jobs, Aug.
1951, 10 pp.
7Walter G. O'Donnell, "The Problem of
Age Barriersin Personnel Selection,"in Personnel (New York: American Management
Association,May 1951), pp. 461-71.

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PATTERN OF AGE BARRIERS VARIES

It is clear that age barriers are a
pervasive force in industry. However,
the pattern of the barriersvaries widely
from industry to industry, from job to
job, and from community to community. Advertising and public utility
firms are notorious for rigid utilization
of inflexible age requirements. New
industries such as chemicals, plastics,
and aviation customarily impose age
restrictions to a greater extent than
older industries. The age bars are not
as numerous in the service industries
or in service jobs in any industry.
There is a tendency to ignore age restrictions for jobs requiring a high degree of skill, such as tool and die
maker. Large concerns are more likely
to impose age restrictions than are
medium or small firms.
An indication of the different levels
at which age barriers are imposed in
various jobs is seen in the fact that
restaurantswill take highly skilled people like cooks up to 65 years of age,
but waitresses, waiters, and counter
people meet resistance at age 50 or
earlier. Hotel clerks run up against
age barriers at 40. Professional nurses
over 40 find difficulty obtaining jobs on
hospital staffs but can be placed on
private duty. In commercial offices,
the age limit is frequently 35 for women
and 45 for men except in specialized
fields such as legal stenography, insurance brokerage, and sometimes bookkeeping.
CULTUREBARRIERS

The disregardin our high-energy culture for the biological, social, and economic demands of life in the later
years must be viewed as a temporary,
transitional phenomenon. More satisfactory adjustments are being sought
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is developing a planned, conscious effort to re-examine, re-evaluate, and reshape the attitudes and policies of society toward its older people.8 This
issue of THE ANNALS is in itself an

overt manifestation of this conscious
effort.
These efforts clash with our traditional culture values which impede the
hiring of older workers. We are a
nation of youth worshipers. Our national heroes are not philosophers or
physicists, but twenty-year-old baseball
players and teen-age Hollywood stars
whose obvious lack of dramatic powers
is obscured by more obvious features.
Many respectable corporate fortunes
are being made today by successfully
conditioning the public to a dread of
aging. The purveyors of face creams,
liver pills, slenderizingmechanisms,and
so forth hold before us the grim prospect of a wrinkled, obese, ill old age.
Youth, youth, youth! We idealize it.
We crave it. We fear its loss.
How natural that industry should fall
prey to the theme fostered by itself,
and call for workers with "zing,"
"bounce," "drive," "aggressiveness,"
and for women "with looks"!
Age respect has certainly withered
before intergeneration mobility, industrialization, and urbanization. But another restricting force is the exaltation
of upward gradients. Anthropologists
inform us that we value not past success or past eminence but continued
upward achievements. "Going to the
top" is our goal. And once at the top,
we must continue to find new heights.
Confronted with pressures of this type,
the older person is likely to flounder,
become disheartened, deem himself a
failure, accelerate the likelihood of his
8 See MargaretMead, "CulturalContextsof
Aging," in No Time to Grow Old (Albany,
N. Y.: New York State Joint Legislative
Committee on Problems of the Aging, 1951), pp.
48-51.

inability to obtain work, and remove
himself from the labor market entirely.
The gradual disappearance of the
kinship-oriented conjugal family which
provided status, emotional security, and
often work security for the aged is another block in the path of the older
person. In days gone by, "working for
relatives" was quite common among
older persons. The family took care of
the work needs of older people. Today
with the family economy gone, and with
family businesses replaced by corporate
structures, the opportunities for such
jobs are restricted.
CULTURAL
AIDS

There are numerous cultural forces
which are operating to advance work
opportunities for older persons. The
premium we place on autonomy from
infancy to senility forces many older
people into the labor market who otherwise might not seek employment.
Since opportunities for older persons
to be autonomous are less numerous
than such persons, our older adults are
often held in disrepute in the family,
in the commnuity, and in the personnel
office. Increasingly older persons want
to be "on their own." Sociologists
point out that apart from any biological need for activity, paid work becomes
the means of mediating the conflicts
that rage in families when individuals
have feelings toward responsibility for
their parents which conflict with pressures to protect the living standards
and future of their own children.
One of the most hopeful of the current cultural forces is the tendency to
glorify the worth of the individual and
to maximize his opportunities. The
emergence of this culture value will
serve to mold industrial, economic and
policical policies to the advantage of
older men in the labor market.
Other societal pressures operating for
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establish work as status, as prestige,
as success, as power. The lack of interhuman associations apart from work
also helps to build up pressure for expanding job opportunities for older persons. There are thus at present conflicting cultural forces in our society
which are stimuli and inhibitors of employment opportunitiesof older persons.

workers. Prejudice against them may
not diminish in a tight labor market,
but its overt manifestations and its
practical impact are lessened. The
prejudice lies simmering, awaiting an
opportunity to steam forth in repressive
age restrictions.
Even in times of labor shortage, defense plants and governmental agencies
will advertise for workers "under 35"
LACK OF JOBS
or "under 45" depending on the type
As obvious as Cyrano's nose, the of position. One recent study, howmain barrier to the employment of ever, indicated that among those 65
older workers is simply a lack of avail- and over, only 17 per cent had been
able jobs. A United States Employ- seeking a job for twenty weeks or more
ment Service survey disclosed that as in a tight labor area, compared with
"unemployment increases, employer almost 29 per cent in an area of very
specifications with respect to age are substantial labor surplus.l2
tightened and the per cent of older
BY
ERECTED OLDERJOB
BARRIERS
workers among the jobless increases
SEEKERS
. .and
if not reemployed at their
Out of the new research on the older
regular work, [the older workers] are
usually downgradedin skill and pay." 9 job seeker has come awareness that he
Similar conclusionshave been reached is one of his own main obstacles.13 He
by studies in various foreign coun- often comes to the task of seeking a job
tries.10 World-wide, the plight of the with little understanding of the nature
older worker varies in intensity with of the project. He lacks skill in merthe extent of employment or the condi- chandising himself-does not know how
tion of the labor market.1l If the de- to carry on an aggressive sales cammand for labor can be broadened par- paign in his own behalf. He may be a
ticularly in areas of high technological poor letter writer. He may be so afchange, declining industries, contract- fected by what can only be described
ing employment, or underdevelopment, as "unemployment shock" that he reolder workers will find it easier to ob- acts in interviews either with overtain work.
timidity or with overaggressiveness. He
However, the condition of full em- often lacks familiarity with the job
ployment will not ipso facto eliminate leads in his field, such as trade direcall obstacles to the hiring of older tories and publications.
9 Robert C. Goodwin, "The Older Worker
Very frequently, the older worker is
in the Labor Market," in Young at any Age
unfamiliar with the principle of con(Albany: New York State Joint Legislative
version. A watchmaker thinks only in
Committee on Problems of the Aging, Leg.
terms of watchmaking instead of any
Doc. 12, of 1950), p. 79.
10 See International Labour Office, Discrimination Against Elderly Workers, Geneva, 1938
(mimeo.).
11Albert J. Abrams, "Discrimination in
Employment of Older Workers in Various
Countries of the World," abstracted in Journal of Gerontology, Vol. 6 (July 1951), supp.
to No. 3, p. 51.

12 U. S. Dept. of Labor, Bureau of Employment Security, Older Workers at the Public Employment Office, Aug. 9, 1950.
13New York State Employment Service
and Division of Placement and Unemployment Insurance, Employment Problems of
Older Workers in New York City, Aug. 1950,
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related precision work. A sheet metal
worker thinks in terms of sheet metal
work alone rather than allied metal
work jobs. This failure to dissect his
own talents properly hits especially
hard at those men who have worked for
years at one single operation which has
become obsolete.
The high obsolescence of machinery
and skills in modern industry and the
increased mobility of industry itself are
severe, real barriers to the employment
aspirations of older persons. They
often serve to leave older workers, with
long experience on a single job or single
machine, high and dry. The pace of
modern production lines often is not
attuned to reaction timing of aging
nervous systems.
Experienced counselors are familiar
with the reactions of older men with
stable work histories who are suddenly
cast out of a job; the counselor often
finds that "time purges unrealistic demands," but it is a harsh cure.
The worker whose production is declining imposes his own barriers when
he refuses to recognize his own failing
capacities and adjust to them, when he
refuses to accept work of lower prestige
or status, lower skill, or lower pay than
he has been accustomed to in the past.
Many men resist wearing hearing aids,
glasses, or other appliances which would
enable them to remain on the job or
expedite their adjustment to a new job.
They often fail to realize that they
would be much more likely to obtain
employment if they searched for work
in plants that are out of town or uptown instead of downtown, or if they
would consider split-shift jobs.
When the older worker is "set in his
ways," when he obviously has a knowit-all attitude that alienates younger
supervisors or other associates, when
he suffers from emotional disturbances
which may be related to climacteric
changes, family difficulties, or other

factors, he is obviously his own barrier.
Sometimes women resist brushing up
on old skills when they re-enter the
labor field after years of layoff to raise
families, and find difficulty obtaining
work such as bookkeeping,stenography,
typing, or photography.
Many of these obstacles fortunately
can be prevented or overcome. The
older workers can themselves block development of many of these self-made
barriers or can be aided in skirting
them through the aid of skilled employment counselors.
INDUSTRY OBSTACLES

Many of our foremost production
executives argue that hiring older job
seekers means increasing production
costs. Mr. Charles E. Wilson, shortly
before leaving General Electric Company to become Director of Defense
Mobilization, informed the Desmond
Committee that "keeping older people
with diminished capacity in the labor
force tends to raise costs appreciably
and reduce efficiency." The coupling
of "older people" with "diminished capacity" is significant, as one of the
dominant stereotypes in industrial
thinking is the linking of older workers
with decreased production. However,
there are no data which indicate that
older men generally produce less than
younger men, or that younger men can
keep pace with older men on certain
types of jobs, or that older men cannot keep up with younger men on other
types of jobs if permitted to sit rather
than stand, or if permitted occasional
rest periods.
On the contrary, a Desmond Committee survey showed that nearly threefourths of the firms reporting indicated
that older workers produce as much as
younger workers. A NAM survey indicated that one-third of the reporting
concerns felt that the quantity of work
of the older person was greater, and a

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majority of them believed that the
quality of work was superior.
Nonetheless, there is widespread belief in management circles that since
our Americaneconomy is based on lowcost mass production, this conflicts with
the hiring of older job seekers. Closely
associated with this concept is the
rationalization that younger men are
needed for competitive strength. "We
need young, hard-hitting, aggressive
employees," the employer says, "if we
are to compete successfully." The
values of mature judgment, experience,
and know-how are rarely equated with
"drive," "pep," "dynamic personality."
Pension and compensation rates
Pensions may indeed prove costly,
when older men are hired. For example, a single premium for a newly hired
40-year-old who is to be retired at 65
with a $100-a-month annuity may cost
a firm $6,823; for a 55-year-old,
$10,623; for a 60-year-old, $13,860.14
While these figures are approximations,
and will vary depending on the type
of pension arrangementset up, they indicate that the penalty for hiring an
older worker under current pension systems may be felt keenly; this is not
likely to be true, however, of pension
systems operated on a cents-an-hour
basis which disregards the age of individual employees.
Mr. William White, president of the
Delaware, Lackawanna and Western
Railroad Company, recently informed
the Desmond Committee that since pension plans usually require long periods
of service to qualify for annuities, concerns are hesitant to hire those who will
not benefit from the pension plans because of an insufficientnumber of years
14 Assumes a 214 per cent interest rate,
based on 1937 standard annuity mortality
rates, set back one year and loaded 8 per
cent of gross.

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remaining before compulsory retirement. Firms are reluctant to hire shortterm help who will be retired on a pittance. Mr. Eugene Holman, president
of Standard Oil Company (New Jersey), emphasizes that pension plans
which require workers to serve a long
number of years with a particular concern "introduce inflexibility into the
labor market and discourage the hiring
of older employees."
There is no conclusive evidence that
workmen's compensation rates generally go up as older men are hired.
Senator Desmond assails this contention as "a myth of management," conjured up from isolated cases of large
compensation awards granted in instances of injuries to older men. He
reports:
show that while accidents
Investigations
tend to be more severe amongelderlyand
the duration of disability longer, older
workerstend to have fewer accidents,and
are less likely,due to theirknow-how, be
to
burned,crushed,cut, punctured,or lacerated on the job. Too, the rate-making
process does not take into account age.
Adoptionof so-calledSecondInjury Laws
tends to reduce the risk of employersin
hiringolderpersonswith disabilities.
Other personnel policy factors
Another frequently expressed reason
for barring older job seekers is the need
to maintain a balanced labor force.
Since many American companies do
keep in their employ workers of many
years' seniority, they sometimes fear
permitting entry of newcomers in the
upper age brackets, as tending to an
overload of aged.
"But if we hire older men we will be
cutting down job opportunities for
youth. Youngsters have to be given a
chance too." This lament is often
heard. It is based on the questionable
assumption of a restricted job pool.

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Furthermore, there are many jobs
youngsters do not want or cannot fill,
such as dead-endjobs, monotonousjobs,
technical supervising jobs. Nonetheless, the youth-versus-age conflict is a
very real restrictor of job opportunities
for older workers.
Many companies cite their policy of
"promoting from within" as seriously
restricting their ability to hire older
workers. Entry jobs are restricted to
low-pay, low-skill posts, such as office
boy, sweeper, and junior clerk, and it
is expected that persons filling those
jobs will be promoted through the ranks
in accordance with an industrial career
system. For the company this is expected to build a "team spirit" and
"better morale," which in turn are expected to lower turnover and step up
production. The inflexibility of these
promotion systems which bar entry of
high-level talent of mature years and
conflict with the realities of an aging
labor force calls for re-examination.
Even when a company does not have
a rigid promotion-from-within policy,
there is often a feeling that the "family
spirit" within the plant cannot be developed in workers hired late in life.
Among the main impedimenta to the
hiring of older workers are a host of
unverified premises. For example, a
recent study in the needle-trades industry disclosed these attitudes: "Old people think they know everything and insist on doing things their own way";
"they're sick too often"; "they can't
get along with younger workers"; "old
people can't turn out enough work";
"they're going to retire soon on pensions, and we need workers who will
stay on the job"; "they can't get
around fast enough"; "they can't stand
on their feet too long"; "you can't ask
old folks to do heavy work."
The validity of many of these attitudes is questionable; all cry out for
scientific analysis and verification. But

that they compose a very formidable
barricade to the older job seeker is
unquestioned.
EMPLOYMENT TECHNIQUES

Recent inquiries have shown that
older job seekers are commonly given
little consideration in public employment agencies. Experiments in the
United States and Canada have indicated that when special attention is
given in the form of counseling and
extra placement efforts, twice as many
older persons obtain employment as under usual procedures. Until the public
employment service is financially enabled to provide the necessary personnel to give special service to the 40plus group, and until federal funds are
allocated to the state employment offices on a work-load basis, the older
worker will continue to meet his first
barrier to a job when he steps into a
public employment office.
At the plant, a magnificent array of
pseudo-scientific medical and psychological tests authorized by personnel
directors who confuse the apparatus of
science with science itself adds to the
obstacles that lie in wait for the older
man or woman who seeks a job.
The medical job-screening examinations, for example, are rarely related to
the job that is available. Too, they
aim to ferret out disease rather than to
assess health status or ability to work
in relationship to a specific job. Industrial physicians are primarily doctors,
and, as such, are disease hunters, rather
than physiological experts capable of
determining with precision stamina and
and health status. Cardiac specialists,
for example, constantly complain of
medical generalists in industry who
simply are unaware of the work tolerances of a job applicant with a heart
impairment. The physician attached to
a small plant in particular is likely to
be wholly unfamiliar with job demands.

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Psychological tests of personality or ployment of the older worker is the
aptitudes generally have been validated lack of job analysis data which would
on younger persons-college students give management an accurate picture
for the most part. No one knows of the demands of each job. These,
whether they are at all valid for older used in conjunction with physical depeople; in fact there are a number of mands data, could be utilized to place
reasons to doubt their applicability to older workers in jobs for which they
older persons. They are often unmean- are suited.
Is it in the very nature of our indusingful to older persons who are not
test oriented, as are young people who trial society that our older workersmust
have been tested and retested from be discarded and thwarted in their efelementary grades through colleges. forts to obtain work? There is no inThe tests are often unrelated to the dication that there is anything inherent
specific job opening. They may impose in a complex, mass production economy
time-pressure limitations that are not to prevent the hiring of older workers.
imposed by the job itself. The presi- Some large companies, such as Eastdent of one concern which utilizes psy- man Kodak and Endicott Johnson, do
chological tests to screen job appli- hire older workers successfully. The
cants informs me that he has come to main obstacle is lack of data, lack of
appreciate the deficiencies of the test research, lack of knowledge. Stemming
when dealing with older persons, and from these are obstacles of attitudes
so automatically upgrades scores of and prejudices. Machines can be
the 40-plus applicants! "Evaluation adapted to gray-haired men, and grayof the work ability of older persons is haired men can be adapted to maless simple, is less adapted to routine chines. But when the foe is not maprocedure, and requires more time and chines but ignorance and prejudice, the
consideration," one investigator points task is much more difficult.
out.15
BARRIERS BY UNIONS
When hiring is done at the gate, individual prejudices against older men
The barriers imposed by unions to
block their obtaining an equal chance the hiring of older workers are largely
at jobs. When the hiring or screening of an indirect nature and have not been
is done in the personnel office by crew- given thorough, critical analysis.16 The
cut, bow-tie juveniles fresh out of col- older worker is one of labor's constitulege, the older worker is often at a ents, hnd the unions are, it may be
serious disadvantage. Dr. Irving Lorge assumed, just as likely on the whole to
and J. Tuckerman of Columbia Univer- seek to promote his interests as is a
sity Teachers College have conducted California Congressmanthe interests of
research which indicates that even a Long Beach taxpayer. Union pressophisticated individuals such as gradu- sures for old-age insurance, corporate
ate students of psychology have ab- pensions, medical benefits, seniority,
sorbed prejudices against older job ap- and full employment have operated to
plicants.
protect the older person. However,
One of the major obstacles to the em- the interest of unions in the older
worker varies considerably depending

15 Arthur
J. Noetzel, Jr., Personnel Administration and the Older Worker (Cleveland:
Welfare Federation of Cleveland, Occupational Planning Committee, Jan. 12, 1951,
mimeo.), p. 6.

16 A preliminary analysis is contained in
Albert J. Abrams, "Unions and the Older
Worker," in No Time to Grow Old, op. cit.
note 8 supra, pp. 119-44.

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on a host of factors such as age of
union members, age of union leadership, nature of the industry organized,
and stage of unionization achieved.
One of the obstacles to the hiring of
older workers is the refusal of many
unions to permit workers of declining
abilities to be downgraded in pay or
position. Sixty per cent of the international unions reporting to Senator
Desmond in one survey said they permitted older workers to take lowerrated jobs at lower wage rates, 30 per
cent that they refused to allow such
downgrading,and 10 per cent that they
left the matter up to the locals. All
of the internationals reporting, with
the lone exception of the International
Typographical Union, refused to permit
older workers to remain at their same
jobs at lower wage rates if unable to do
a full day's work. Managementreported
that even when union rules permitted
downgrading, in the actual give and
take of collective bargaining, the labor
leaders strenuously opposed such moves.
Unions with closed shops or hiringhall arrangements reported they were
able to combat management barriers
against hiring older workers quite effectively by controlling the employment referrals. However, where unions
utilize work permits and older men
seek to switch from one skill to another
or from one industry to another, the
man of mature years is likely to run
into severe obstacles.
Some unions have been loath to open
up entry jobs for older persons which
would enable them to get a foothold in
plants. Older workers coming to a
plant for work are sometimes confronted with the regulation that they
must start as apprentices to obtain employment, but they are too old to start
as apprentices!
Thirty per cent of internationals reporting to Senator Desmond stated that
they placed some bar in the way of

part-time work for retired union members. The exploitation of homeworkers
in the early decades of the twentieth
century and fear of the tearing down
of wage structures have led to a refusal to reopen the question to permit
homebound elderly people to earn a
living and to enable many on old-age
assistance roles to gain an income.
One of the barriers imposed by
unions in the past has been an understandable subordination of interest in
the older job seeker to the larger
issues of higher wages, union security,
and better working conditions. Even
today, some union leaders are prone
to dismiss the problem of the aged job
seeker as an insignificant but inseparable aspect of the issue of full employment. However, many unions are
beginning to recognize that their constituency is aging, and that the problems of older job seekers, while akin to
those of all job seekers, are often
unique, and demand careful consideration and prompt action.
PROGRESS
BEING MADE

The barriers that block the employment of older persons are formidable
but not insuperable. They are being
slowly penetrated.
The National Association of Manufacturers, the National Industrial Conference Board, the American Management Association, and the United
States Chamber of Commerce, have
conducted surveys or educational programs. Both the American Federation
of Labor and the Congress of Industrial Organizations,as well as some independent internationals, have assigned
personnel to explore this area and to
help promote the hiring of older workers. Foundations are beginning to allocate funds for basic and applied research. At many universities, including
Columbia, Cornell, and the universities
of California, Minnesota, Wisconsin,

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�BARRIERS TO THE EMPLOYMENT OF OLDER WORKERS

and Chicago, research in this area has
started.
Governmental agencies are undertaking research, education, and service
functions. The Federal Security Agency's Committee on Aging and Geriatrics, the United States Bureau of Labor
Statistics, and the Women's Bureau
are stimulating or engaging in research
and education. The United States Bureau of Employment Security has undertaken fundamental research and has
issued a manual on counseling older
job seekers. Research on capabilities
of older workers has been underway
for some time at the Gerontological
Division of the National Institutes of
Health. Significant studies of skill and
age are being made from grants made
to Cambridge University by the Nuffield Foundation.
Private groups such as the National
Committee on Aging have set up special task forces to promote the interests
of older workers. The National Planning Association, the Twentieth Century Fund, and other such groups are
making contributions to understanding the gray-haired man who comes to
the factory gate in search of a job.
Newspapers, magazines, radio, and television are beginning to do an effective
interpretative job of employer and employee problems in this field.
On the state level, the New York
State Joint Legislative Committee on
Problems of the Aging has pioneered
in development of programs in this
field. Massachusetts by virtue of a

71

1950 law has become a testing ground
for the efficacy of the approach of the
Fair Employment Practice Committee to banning discrimination against
older job seekers. Many other states
are turning their attention to this field.
In Schenectady, Syracuse, Cleveland,
Indianapolis, Portland (Oregon), Chicago, and Los Angeles, local community groups are seeking to improve the
opportunities of older job seekers to
obtain equal consideration in employment. Forty-plus clubs are active in
obtaining work for older executives.
The goal of all these efforts is to assure an opportunity to obtain work for
all older men who want work and can
be fitted for work. The mental blocks
of attitudes and myths can be smashed.
Research and education will overcome
the barriers of myth and ignorance
that strengthen stereotypes about older
workers and block sound personnel procedures. The barriers that stem from
lack of technical tools, such as suitable
testing apparatus and training facilities,
will be overcome as money, time, and
personnel become allocated to the task.
New experiences in utilizing an aging
work force will speed up acceptability
of older persons by industry. And since
the product-older men and womenis constantly being improved by better
education, better medicine, and better
living conditions, there is every reason
to believe that in the not too distant
future when a 40-plus or 60-plus job
seeker applies for work his birthdays
will not be counted against him.

Albert J. Abrams, Newburgh, New York, is director of the New York State Joint
Legislative Committee on Problems of the Aging, acting chairman of the employment
section, National Committee on Aging, and research associate to State Senator Thomas C.
Desmond. He has been chairman of the employment section, President's National Conference on Aging, director of the New York State Joint Legislative Committee on Nutrition, director of the New York State Trichinosis Commission, staff director of the New
York Senate Committee on Affairs of Cities, and assistant to the
Mayor of West New
York, New Jersey. He is editor of No Time to Grow Old (1951), Young at Any Age
(1950), Never Too Old (1949), and Birthdays Don't Count (1948). He has written
articles on government for lay and professional journals.

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00:00:52 Flurry hosted Iraq war protests in 2003 and 1989. &#13;
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00:52:19 Reflecting on all of his goals being accomplished in bringing a world together&#13;
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00:25 Introduction. Born May 1962 Denver, Colorado. &#13;
00:47 Lived in Denver until 9 years old. Grew up w parents and little brother. Parent divorce and mother lost job. Mother and her moved to Schenectady, NY. Family already lived in Northeast. &#13;
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10:59 Tells story of what inspired/ influenced her into this practice. Picked up on it in P.T school. Put this interest aside after graduating until 9/11. Just married to husband who was in National Guard, got called to be on duty during 9/11. Describes the stress and trauma of the situation being apart from husband. In order to stay busy, she would spend time doing agility classes w/ dog. On her ride home one day after being bombarded by people asking how her husband was doing when she had no way to contact him/ know how he was doing, realized she wants try something “fun and new”. Gets letter about taking classes on myofascial release. &#13;
14:44 Worked at a Developmental Center with people with developmental disabilities. Helped w/ those who had limited range of motion physically. Had one patient who was blind &amp; suffered from spastic circumduction gait. Could not walk. Doctor would get mad at M’elle saying she was not “aggressive” enough when treating his range of motion. As gentle as she was, he would whimper and show signs of fear whenever he would hear her coming or hear her voice. When she started using myofascial release concepts and allowed time rather than simply stretching do the work, she saw positive results &amp; less fear and pain felt by patient. &#13;
16:59 Husband went to Iraq w/ National Guard Unit. M’elle continued to take classes to keep busy. Set goal to start private practice that would deal solely w myofascial release.&#13;
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19:15 15 years ago, movement created to make this area into the “Arts district” to counter the “unsafe” reputation she describes the location had prior due to drugs. The locals wanted to “take back their neighborhood” and create space for artists to come and find live/work situations and produce art. Buildings became reclaimed. Named the building “Saratoga Healing Arts” so, they would fit in with the Arts District. &#13;
21:00 Discusses her personal connection to art through the non-traditional and complexity involved with the healing arts. Views every patient as an individual, can’t make assumptions about what they will need. Talks about perspective on different types of healing being their own kind of “art forms”. &#13;
22:50 A challenge she runs into on Beekman street is that she doesn’t take insurance &amp; people are not used to that. Parking is also an issue because of restaurants. People who have trouble walking will have issues w/ physical access to getting to practice. &#13;
25:16 Agrees with the notion that Beekman street is a location where outsider’s come and find their own place within. Describes the eclectic mix of personalities and neighbors along the street, both in businesses and people who live there. Street fair in June, showcases the community and the artist district. &#13;
26:33 Tells story about the time she broke her wrist in May &amp; couldn’t work. Set up a go-fund me account to pay for meals &amp; many friends and neighbors on Beekman donated $$, gift cards, delivered food, help with anything. Felt strong sense of support and being included in the community. &#13;
28:40 Describes the openness she sees in the Saratoga area to alternative spiritual practices. Open churches &amp; meditation sessions for anyone no matter their faith or even no-faith. Yoga in the park. Library meditations post 2016 election. Talks about that this is a call for Saratogians to take a stand for what is right, say no to discrimination and racism, and say yes to inclusion. &#13;
30:34 Creates a safe space in her practice especially in light of the election. Deals w/ physical trauma which is tied to emotional trauma. Creates a judgement free zone for patients to process whatever emotions may come up during a session. Tries best to keep politics out of the conversations she’ll have during sessions w patients so, that no matter who the person is &amp; who they voted for, it is a safe space for them to process. &#13;
32:39 Recounts moments she had to handle situations where patients were emotional during a session. Things like mourning a death of loved one. Had to understand how to handle it if someone is vulnerable especially young people campaigning during the election who felt disenfranchised afterwards. &#13;
34:01 “Any emotion you express is a good emotion” &#13;
34:17 Discusses the importance of creating a safe emotional space for other human beings. Explains her feelings on those who are in chronic pain are held back from total healing due to this societal trend which encourages us to bottle up our emotions. “Big boys don’t cry.” “Big girls don’t get upset or get angry” There are physical implications tied to containing our emotions. “Issues are in our tissues” &#13;
35:48 Words of mentor, John Barnes “If you know what you’re doing before entering the room, you don’t know what you’re doing” (in regards to emotional knowledge of patients beyond their physical condition). Discusses how she handles having patients explain their stories to her that have led them to seek out her practice. &#13;
38:43 Always been part of a community even as she moved to a new place bc of family connections. Reflected on her difficult time connecting and believing in the “specifics of the Presbyterian church” which she had to join as a 13 year old girl. Believed in a higher power, but questioned the belief in the father, son, and holy ghost components of the religion. Felt guilty &amp; couldn’t lie. Mother was accepting of this and encouraged her to explore other churches/ places of worship in neighborhood. Never really found anything she felt most connected to, but still remained open until this day. &#13;
41:46 Felt part of church community and events &amp; singing. But, reciting prayers she didn’t believe in didn’t sit well with her. Would come to coffee hours and come to services for her joy of music, but never joined church. &#13;
43:19 Discusses her love of learning about other religions and cultures. Also, likes to focus on what makes those different practices similar to one another rather than the differences as a way of making the world a better, more harmonious place. “To have small differences in dogma or doctrine become so divisive in our country, I find very sad.” &#13;
44:44 Some of the similarities she found as a result of exploring different faiths as a 13 year old girl and throughout her life consist of: there is a higher power no matter what the name is, caring for fellow human beings and animals of this planet, being of service is important, and not judging. &#13;
46:00 Shares thoughts on positive experience living and working in Saratoga. Small town w/ many different amenities. &#13;
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&#13;
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                    <text>Ari	&#13;  Bogom-­‐Shanon:	&#13;  Ok,	&#13;  if	&#13;  you	&#13;  wouldn't	&#13;  mind	&#13;  just	&#13;  stating	&#13;  your	&#13;  name?	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
Parker	&#13;  Diggory:	&#13;  My	&#13;  name	&#13;  is	&#13;  Parker	&#13;  Diggory.	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
ABS:	&#13;  And	&#13;  your	&#13;  title.	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
PD:	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  the	&#13;  director	&#13;  of	&#13;  Religious	&#13;  and	&#13;  Spiritual	&#13;  Life	&#13;  at	&#13;  Skidmore	&#13;  College.	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
ABS:	&#13;  Great,	&#13;  thank	&#13;  you.	&#13;  So	&#13;  we're	&#13;  here	&#13;  on	&#13;  February	&#13;  16th	&#13;  in	&#13;  Parker's	&#13;  office	&#13;  at	&#13;  
Skidmore.	&#13;  So	&#13;  I'd	&#13;  like	&#13;  to	&#13;  just	&#13;  start	&#13;  off	&#13;  by	&#13;  asking	&#13;  about	&#13;  your	&#13;  connection	&#13;  to	&#13;  Skidmore	&#13;  
College	&#13;  and	&#13;  where	&#13;  that	&#13;  started	&#13;  and	&#13;  what	&#13;  you	&#13;  do	&#13;  here	&#13;  now.	&#13;  	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
PD:	&#13;  Sure,	&#13;  so	&#13;  my	&#13;  connection	&#13;  to	&#13;  Skidmore	&#13;  college	&#13;  is	&#13;  really	&#13;  life	&#13;  long,	&#13;  both	&#13;  of	&#13;  my	&#13;  parents	&#13;  
taught	&#13;  here,	&#13;  my	&#13;  father	&#13;  taught	&#13;  here	&#13;  for	&#13;  I	&#13;  don't	&#13;  know,	&#13;  three	&#13;  decades	&#13;  or	&#13;  more,	&#13;  and	&#13;  so	&#13;  I	&#13;  
knew	&#13;  the	&#13;  campus	&#13;  from	&#13;  my	&#13;  earliest	&#13;  memories.	&#13;  I	&#13;  went	&#13;  to	&#13;  summer	&#13;  camp	&#13;  here	&#13;  one	&#13;  
summer,	&#13;  I	&#13;  had	&#13;  one	&#13;  of	&#13;  my	&#13;  first	&#13;  jobs	&#13;  here	&#13;  when	&#13;  the	&#13;  Tang	&#13;  opened,	&#13;  working	&#13;  there.	&#13;  Yeah	&#13;  
so	&#13;  I've	&#13;  been	&#13;  connected	&#13;  to	&#13;  the	&#13;  community	&#13;  in	&#13;  a	&#13;  number	&#13;  of	&#13;  ways,	&#13;  coming	&#13;  to	&#13;  
performances,	&#13;  things	&#13;  like	&#13;  that.	&#13;  I	&#13;  took	&#13;  classes	&#13;  here	&#13;  while	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  in	&#13;  high	&#13;  school	&#13;  as	&#13;  a	&#13;  
special	&#13;  student,	&#13;  and	&#13;  then	&#13;  when	&#13;  I	&#13;  left	&#13;  for	&#13;  college	&#13;  and	&#13;  grad	&#13;  school	&#13;  and	&#13;  all	&#13;  of	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  
didn't	&#13;  have	&#13;  much	&#13;  of	&#13;  a	&#13;  connection	&#13;  to	&#13;  the	&#13;  campus	&#13;  for	&#13;  about	&#13;  fifteen	&#13;  years	&#13;  I	&#13;  would	&#13;  say.	&#13;  
And	&#13;  then,	&#13;  just	&#13;  three	&#13;  years	&#13;  ago	&#13;  I	&#13;  came	&#13;  back	&#13;  to	&#13;  take	&#13;  on	&#13;  this	&#13;  position,	&#13;  at	&#13;  first	&#13;  part	&#13;  time	&#13;  
and	&#13;  then	&#13;  full	&#13;  time,	&#13;  and	&#13;  now	&#13;  like	&#13;  I	&#13;  said	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  the	&#13;  director	&#13;  of	&#13;  Religious	&#13;  and	&#13;  Spiritual	&#13;  Life	&#13;  
and	&#13;  that	&#13;  means	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  work	&#13;  with	&#13;  other	&#13;  offices	&#13;  in	&#13;  Campus	&#13;  Life	&#13;  and	&#13;  Engagement	&#13;  and	&#13;  in	&#13;  
Student	&#13;  Affairs	&#13;  to	&#13;  support	&#13;  the	&#13;  students	&#13;  primarily	&#13;  but	&#13;  really	&#13;  the	&#13;  whole	&#13;  campus	&#13;  in	&#13;  
their	&#13;  religious	&#13;  life,	&#13;  in	&#13;  their	&#13;  search	&#13;  for	&#13;  spiritual	&#13;  connection,	&#13;  in	&#13;  their	&#13;  growing	&#13;  
awareness	&#13;  of	&#13;  religion	&#13;  in	&#13;  general	&#13;  in	&#13;  the	&#13;  world.	&#13;  	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
ABS:	&#13;  Great,	&#13;  thank	&#13;  you.	&#13;  That's	&#13;  a	&#13;  bit	&#13;  about	&#13;  your	&#13;  connection	&#13;  to	&#13;  Skidmore,	&#13;  now	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  
wondering	&#13;  if	&#13;  you	&#13;  can	&#13;  talk	&#13;  a	&#13;  bit	&#13;  about	&#13;  your	&#13;  connection	&#13;  to	&#13;  Saratoga,	&#13;  focusing	&#13;  on	&#13;  faith-­‐
based	&#13;  communities	&#13;  or	&#13;  if	&#13;  there's	&#13;  like	&#13;  a	&#13;  faith-­‐based	&#13;  journey	&#13;  that	&#13;  brought	&#13;  you	&#13;  to	&#13;  this	&#13;  
particular	&#13;  position	&#13;  here.	&#13;  	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
PD:	&#13;  Sure,	&#13;  so,	&#13;  again	&#13;  born	&#13;  and	&#13;  raised	&#13;  in	&#13;  Saratoga	&#13;  Springs.	&#13;  Um,	&#13;  went	&#13;  to	&#13;  public	&#13;  schools	&#13;  
here	&#13;  and	&#13;  grew	&#13;  up	&#13;  in	&#13;  the	&#13;  same	&#13;  church	&#13;  that	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  actually	&#13;  attending	&#13;  now,	&#13;  which	&#13;  is	&#13;  the	&#13;  
Presbyterian	&#13;  New	&#13;  England	&#13;  Congregational	&#13;  Church	&#13;  on	&#13;  Circular	&#13;  Street	&#13;  in	&#13;  Saratoga.	&#13;  
And,	&#13;  it	&#13;  wasn't	&#13;  a	&#13;  very,	&#13;  hm,	&#13;  all-­‐encompassing	&#13;  kind	&#13;  of	&#13;  church	&#13;  life,	&#13;  where	&#13;  everything	&#13;  
you	&#13;  do	&#13;  and	&#13;  everything	&#13;  your	&#13;  family	&#13;  does	&#13;  is	&#13;  sort	&#13;  of,	&#13;  is	&#13;  connected	&#13;  to	&#13;  that	&#13;  community,	&#13;  
but	&#13;  it	&#13;  was	&#13;  certainly	&#13;  very	&#13;  big	&#13;  in	&#13;  my	&#13;  life.	&#13;  We	&#13;  went	&#13;  to	&#13;  church	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  Sundays,	&#13;  at	&#13;  least	&#13;  
during	&#13;  the	&#13;  school	&#13;  year.	&#13;  We	&#13;  did	&#13;  volunteer	&#13;  work	&#13;  with	&#13;  them.	&#13;  That's	&#13;  where	&#13;  I	&#13;  went	&#13;  to	&#13;  
youth	&#13;  group	&#13;  and	&#13;  went	&#13;  on	&#13;  trips	&#13;  and	&#13;  so	&#13;  that	&#13;  really	&#13;  was	&#13;  my	&#13;  forming—my	&#13;  formational	&#13;  
community	&#13;  in	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  ways.	&#13;  It's	&#13;  where	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  my	&#13;  strongest	&#13;  friendships	&#13;  developed,	&#13;  
in	&#13;  terms	&#13;  of	&#13;  you	&#13;  know	&#13;  when	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  a	&#13;  teenager,	&#13;  the	&#13;  people	&#13;  who	&#13;  I	&#13;  still	&#13;  speak	&#13;  to	&#13;  now	&#13;  as	&#13;  
an	&#13;  adult	&#13;  from	&#13;  my	&#13;  childhood	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  them	&#13;  are	&#13;  people	&#13;  I	&#13;  knew	&#13;  through	&#13;  church.	&#13;  And	&#13;  
then	&#13;  also	&#13;  that	&#13;  meant	&#13;  that	&#13;  other-­‐-­‐that's	&#13;  how	&#13;  I	&#13;  got	&#13;  to	&#13;  know	&#13;  some	&#13;  other	&#13;  religious	&#13;  

�communities.	&#13;  There	&#13;  were	&#13;  some	&#13;  interfaith	&#13;  things	&#13;  that	&#13;  happen	&#13;  or	&#13;  ecumenical	&#13;  things.	&#13;  
That's	&#13;  how	&#13;  I	&#13;  got	&#13;  to	&#13;  know	&#13;  the	&#13;  rabbis	&#13;  at	&#13;  Temple	&#13;  Sinai,	&#13;  because	&#13;  our	&#13;  congregation	&#13;  
would	&#13;  do	&#13;  things	&#13;  together,	&#13;  or,	&#13;  you	&#13;  know	&#13;  there	&#13;  was	&#13;  usually	&#13;  a	&#13;  Thanksgiving	&#13;  kind	&#13;  of	&#13;  
multi-­‐faith	&#13;  prayer	&#13;  and	&#13;  just	&#13;  event,	&#13;  community	&#13;  event,	&#13;  that	&#13;  would	&#13;  happen	&#13;  and	&#13;  there	&#13;  
would	&#13;  be	&#13;  different	&#13;  religious	&#13;  communities	&#13;  represented	&#13;  there.	&#13;  Yeah	&#13;  so	&#13;  that,	&#13;  and	&#13;  they,	&#13;  
the	&#13;  church	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  raised	&#13;  in,	&#13;  like	&#13;  I	&#13;  said	&#13;  it's	&#13;  Presbyterian	&#13;  and	&#13;  Congregational	&#13;  which	&#13;  
are	&#13;  two	&#13;  denominations	&#13;  and	&#13;  I	&#13;  personally	&#13;  am	&#13;  part	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  Presbyterian	&#13;  denomination	&#13;  
and	&#13;  that	&#13;  eventually	&#13;  became	&#13;  a	&#13;  path	&#13;  for	&#13;  me	&#13;  in	&#13;  terms	&#13;  of	&#13;  my	&#13;  professional	&#13;  development	&#13;  
in	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  went	&#13;  to	&#13;  seminary	&#13;  and	&#13;  I	&#13;  am	&#13;  in	&#13;  a	&#13;  sort	&#13;  of	&#13;  long,	&#13;  scenic	&#13;  route	&#13;  towards	&#13;  ordination	&#13;  
in	&#13;  that	&#13;  church.	&#13;  	&#13;  	&#13;  
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ABS:	&#13;  You	&#13;  talked	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  about	&#13;  coming	&#13;  back	&#13;  to	&#13;  the	&#13;  same	&#13;  church	&#13;  community	&#13;  when	&#13;  you	&#13;  
came	&#13;  back	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  wondering	&#13;  if	&#13;  you	&#13;  could	&#13;  expand	&#13;  on	&#13;  what	&#13;  it	&#13;  was	&#13;  like	&#13;  to	&#13;  come	&#13;  back	&#13;  to	&#13;  
this	&#13;  community	&#13;  fifteen	&#13;  years	&#13;  later.	&#13;  	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
PD:	&#13;  Wow,	&#13;  yeah,	&#13;  in	&#13;  many	&#13;  ways	&#13;  it	&#13;  was	&#13;  just	&#13;  wonderful	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  able	&#13;  to	&#13;  come	&#13;  back	&#13;  to	&#13;  my	&#13;  
home	&#13;  church	&#13;  community	&#13;  that	&#13;  it's,	&#13;  even	&#13;  while	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  gone	&#13;  I	&#13;  would	&#13;  come	&#13;  back	&#13;  for	&#13;  
holidays,	&#13;  or	&#13;  if	&#13;  I	&#13;  just	&#13;  happened	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  in	&#13;  town	&#13;  over	&#13;  a	&#13;  weekend	&#13;  I	&#13;  would	&#13;  go	&#13;  to	&#13;  church.	&#13;  
The	&#13;  congregation	&#13;  helped	&#13;  support	&#13;  part	&#13;  of	&#13;  my	&#13;  education,	&#13;  you	&#13;  know,	&#13;  this	&#13;  was	&#13;  who	&#13;  I	&#13;  
kept	&#13;  in	&#13;  touch	&#13;  with	&#13;  so,	&#13;  in	&#13;  some	&#13;  ways	&#13;  I	&#13;  had	&#13;  never	&#13;  completely	&#13;  left.	&#13;  But,	&#13;  I	&#13;  would	&#13;  say,	&#13;  I	&#13;  
guess	&#13;  if	&#13;  there	&#13;  was	&#13;  anything	&#13;  challenging	&#13;  about	&#13;  it,	&#13;  it	&#13;  was	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  had	&#13;  grown	&#13;  in	&#13;  my	&#13;  faith	&#13;  
journey	&#13;  in	&#13;  ways	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  worried	&#13;  wouldn't	&#13;  fit	&#13;  in	&#13;  to	&#13;  my	&#13;  home	&#13;  church.	&#13;  That,	&#13;  
our	&#13;  church	&#13;  is	&#13;  known	&#13;  for	&#13;  a	&#13;  really	&#13;  broad	&#13;  diversity	&#13;  of	&#13;  theological	&#13;  beliefs	&#13;  and,	&#13;  I	&#13;  just,	&#13;  I	&#13;  
didn't	&#13;  have	&#13;  the	&#13;  beliefs	&#13;  as	&#13;  I	&#13;  when	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  younger	&#13;  which	&#13;  it	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  expected	&#13;  but	&#13;  I	&#13;  just	&#13;  
wanted	&#13;  to	&#13;  make	&#13;  sure	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  still	&#13;  gonna	&#13;  fit	&#13;  in	&#13;  and	&#13;  they,	&#13;  they're	&#13;  so	&#13;  accepting	&#13;  of	&#13;  so	&#13;  
many	&#13;  beliefs	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  knew	&#13;  intellectually	&#13;  that	&#13;  that	&#13;  would	&#13;  be	&#13;  fine,	&#13;  but	&#13;  there's	&#13;  still	&#13;  that	&#13;  
nervousness	&#13;  of,	&#13;  if	&#13;  I	&#13;  don't	&#13;  feel	&#13;  like	&#13;  this	&#13;  is	&#13;  my	&#13;  home	&#13;  church	&#13;  now,	&#13;  like	&#13;  what	&#13;  would	&#13;  I	&#13;  
even	&#13;  do,	&#13;  because	&#13;  it's	&#13;  where	&#13;  my	&#13;  parents	&#13;  go.	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  connected	&#13;  to	&#13;  so	&#13;  many	&#13;  families	&#13;  there,	&#13;  
if	&#13;  I	&#13;  all	&#13;  of	&#13;  a	&#13;  sudden	&#13;  started	&#13;  going	&#13;  to	&#13;  say	&#13;  the	&#13;  Methodist	&#13;  Church	&#13;  or	&#13;  the	&#13;  Episcopalian	&#13;  
Church	&#13;  like	&#13;  people	&#13;  would	&#13;  have	&#13;  questions.	&#13;  And,	&#13;  I	&#13;  never	&#13;  seriously	&#13;  considered	&#13;  not	&#13;  
going,	&#13;  but	&#13;  there	&#13;  were	&#13;  times	&#13;  where	&#13;  I	&#13;  thought,	&#13;  if	&#13;  I	&#13;  had	&#13;  moved	&#13;  to	&#13;  this	&#13;  town	&#13;  as	&#13;  an	&#13;  adult	&#13;  
and	&#13;  had	&#13;  never	&#13;  gone	&#13;  to	&#13;  any	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  churches	&#13;  in	&#13;  town,	&#13;  is	&#13;  this	&#13;  the	&#13;  congregation	&#13;  I	&#13;  would	&#13;  
end	&#13;  up.	&#13;  And	&#13;  I	&#13;  honestly	&#13;  don't	&#13;  know.	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  it	&#13;  would	&#13;  be,	&#13;  just	&#13;  because	&#13;  it's	&#13;  unique	&#13;  in	&#13;  a	&#13;  
lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  ways	&#13;  in	&#13;  this	&#13;  town	&#13;  and	&#13;  has	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  things	&#13;  I	&#13;  look	&#13;  for,	&#13;  but	&#13;  it	&#13;  was	&#13;  an	&#13;  interesting	&#13;  
question	&#13;  to	&#13;  think	&#13;  about.	&#13;  And	&#13;  in	&#13;  other	&#13;  ways	&#13;  it's	&#13;  just	&#13;  been	&#13;  good	&#13;  to	&#13;  get	&#13;  back	&#13;  and	&#13;  to	&#13;  
church	&#13;  life	&#13;  and,	&#13;  you	&#13;  know,	&#13;  I	&#13;  ended	&#13;  up	&#13;  being	&#13;  nominated	&#13;  for	&#13;  the	&#13;  board	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  church	&#13;  
and	&#13;  church	&#13;  leadership	&#13;  so	&#13;  it's	&#13;  a	&#13;  very	&#13;  different	&#13;  role	&#13;  than	&#13;  I	&#13;  had	&#13;  before,	&#13;  where	&#13;  I'd	&#13;  still	&#13;  
get	&#13;  treated	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  bit	&#13;  as	&#13;  one	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  kids	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  church	&#13;  but	&#13;  I'm,	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  treated	&#13;  as	&#13;  an	&#13;  adult	&#13;  
and	&#13;  as	&#13;  a	&#13;  leader	&#13;  and	&#13;  with	&#13;  expectations	&#13;  and	&#13;  responsibilities	&#13;  which	&#13;  are	&#13;  different,	&#13;  
which	&#13;  I	&#13;  value.	&#13;  	&#13;  
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�ABS:	&#13;  Thanks	&#13;  for	&#13;  sharing.	&#13;  So	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  this	&#13;  is	&#13;  maybe	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  of	&#13;  a	&#13;  transition	&#13;  into	&#13;  Skidmore	&#13;  
and	&#13;  what	&#13;  that	&#13;  role	&#13;  is	&#13;  like	&#13;  but	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  wondering,	&#13;  for	&#13;  you	&#13;  coming	&#13;  to	&#13;  Saratoga	&#13;  was	&#13;  really	&#13;  
coming	&#13;  home	&#13;  to	&#13;  you	&#13;  community	&#13;  and	&#13;  you	&#13;  talked	&#13;  about	&#13;  how	&#13;  we	&#13;  practice	&#13;  [sic]	&#13;  is	&#13;  so	&#13;  
much	&#13;  bound	&#13;  up	&#13;  with	&#13;  how	&#13;  we	&#13;  grew	&#13;  up	&#13;  and	&#13;  what	&#13;  communities	&#13;  we	&#13;  grew	&#13;  up	&#13;  in,	&#13;  and	&#13;  for	&#13;  
a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  people	&#13;  coming	&#13;  to	&#13;  Skidmore	&#13;  they're	&#13;  leaving	&#13;  their	&#13;  home	&#13;  communities.	&#13;  So	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  
wondering	&#13;  if	&#13;  you	&#13;  thought	&#13;  at	&#13;  all	&#13;  about	&#13;  that	&#13;  kind	&#13;  of	&#13;  relationship	&#13;  of	&#13;  working	&#13;  with	&#13;  a	&#13;  
bunch	&#13;  of	&#13;  students	&#13;  here	&#13;  who	&#13;  are	&#13;  leaving	&#13;  their	&#13;  home	&#13;  communities	&#13;  and	&#13;  for	&#13;  you	&#13;  it's	&#13;  
coming	&#13;  back	&#13;  to	&#13;  your	&#13;  community	&#13;  and	&#13;  if	&#13;  that	&#13;  influences	&#13;  your	&#13;  role	&#13;  here.	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
PD:	&#13;  Mhm.	&#13;  Sure,	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  it	&#13;  does.	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  one	&#13;  would	&#13;  be	&#13;  I	&#13;  try	&#13;  and	&#13;  use	&#13;  the	&#13;  fact	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  do	&#13;  
know	&#13;  this	&#13;  community	&#13;  really	&#13;  well,	&#13;  this	&#13;  Saratoga	&#13;  community	&#13;  as	&#13;  a	&#13;  way	&#13;  to	&#13;  connect	&#13;  
students	&#13;  not	&#13;  just	&#13;  by	&#13;  which	&#13;  denomination	&#13;  they're	&#13;  looking	&#13;  for	&#13;  or	&#13;  you	&#13;  know,	&#13;  the	&#13;  name	&#13;  
of	&#13;  the	&#13;  tradition	&#13;  they're	&#13;  looking	&#13;  for,	&#13;  but	&#13;  sort	&#13;  of	&#13;  getting	&#13;  to	&#13;  know	&#13;  the	&#13;  personality	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  
student	&#13;  and	&#13;  the	&#13;  personality	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  congregation,	&#13;  and	&#13;  being	&#13;  able	&#13;  to	&#13;  say,	&#13;  you	&#13;  know,	&#13;  I	&#13;  
think	&#13;  you're	&#13;  really	&#13;  gonna	&#13;  like	&#13;  this	&#13;  leader,	&#13;  or,	&#13;  you	&#13;  know,	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  some	&#13;  folks	&#13;  who	&#13;  go	&#13;  
to	&#13;  this	&#13;  particular	&#13;  service	&#13;  that	&#13;  are	&#13;  looking	&#13;  at	&#13;  the	&#13;  same	&#13;  questions	&#13;  that	&#13;  you're	&#13;  asking.	&#13;  
And	&#13;  so,	&#13;  part	&#13;  of	&#13;  it	&#13;  is	&#13;  that,	&#13;  and	&#13;  I	&#13;  don't	&#13;  think	&#13;  it's	&#13;  necessary	&#13;  to	&#13;  do	&#13;  my	&#13;  role	&#13;  to	&#13;  have	&#13;  that	&#13;  
sort	&#13;  of	&#13;  historical	&#13;  knowledge,	&#13;  but	&#13;  I've	&#13;  certainly	&#13;  tried	&#13;  to	&#13;  use	&#13;  it	&#13;  that	&#13;  way.	&#13;  And	&#13;  then	&#13;  the	&#13;  
other	&#13;  bit	&#13;  is	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  have	&#13;  to	&#13;  rely	&#13;  on	&#13;  my	&#13;  own	&#13;  college	&#13;  experience	&#13;  where	&#13;  I	&#13;  wasn't	&#13;  in	&#13;  
Saratoga	&#13;  Springs,	&#13;  to	&#13;  relate	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  bit	&#13;  more	&#13;  to	&#13;  what	&#13;  the	&#13;  students	&#13;  are	&#13;  coming	&#13;  in	&#13;  with.	&#13;  
So,	&#13;  I	&#13;  went	&#13;  to	&#13;  college	&#13;  in	&#13;  Middlebury,	&#13;  Vermont,	&#13;  and,	&#13;  you	&#13;  know,	&#13;  they	&#13;  don't	&#13;  have	&#13;  a	&#13;  
Presbyterian	&#13;  church	&#13;  there	&#13;  and	&#13;  so	&#13;  I	&#13;  found	&#13;  the	&#13;  next	&#13;  best	&#13;  thing	&#13;  for	&#13;  me	&#13;  which	&#13;  was	&#13;  
actually	&#13;  a	&#13;  Congregational	&#13;  Church,	&#13;  and	&#13;  I	&#13;  looked	&#13;  up	&#13;  the	&#13;  worship	&#13;  times	&#13;  and	&#13;  I	&#13;  went.	&#13;  I	&#13;  
was	&#13;  one	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  only	&#13;  students	&#13;  who	&#13;  did,	&#13;  sometimes	&#13;  my	&#13;  sister	&#13;  came,	&#13;  she	&#13;  was	&#13;  at	&#13;  the	&#13;  
same	&#13;  school,	&#13;  and	&#13;  that	&#13;  was	&#13;  it.	&#13;  And	&#13;  I	&#13;  realized	&#13;  only,	&#13;  you	&#13;  know,	&#13;  months	&#13;  later	&#13;  who	&#13;  else	&#13;  at	&#13;  
the	&#13;  school	&#13;  might	&#13;  have	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  my	&#13;  similar	&#13;  religious	&#13;  beliefs.	&#13;  That	&#13;  I	&#13;  didn't,	&#13;  I	&#13;  didn't	&#13;  find	&#13;  
my	&#13;  kind	&#13;  of	&#13;  on	&#13;  campus	&#13;  religious	&#13;  community	&#13;  in	&#13;  some	&#13;  ways	&#13;  ever,	&#13;  but	&#13;  even	&#13;  a	&#13;  small	&#13;  part	&#13;  
of	&#13;  it	&#13;  I	&#13;  didn't	&#13;  find	&#13;  for	&#13;  a	&#13;  while.	&#13;  And	&#13;  so	&#13;  I	&#13;  try	&#13;  and	&#13;  hold	&#13;  on	&#13;  to	&#13;  that	&#13;  experience	&#13;  and	&#13;  fill	&#13;  in	&#13;  
some	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  blanks	&#13;  I	&#13;  wish	&#13;  had	&#13;  been	&#13;  filled	&#13;  in	&#13;  for	&#13;  me,	&#13;  as	&#13;  somebody	&#13;  who	&#13;  didn't	&#13;  really	&#13;  
know	&#13;  the	&#13;  landscape.	&#13;  What	&#13;  are	&#13;  some	&#13;  other	&#13;  ways	&#13;  that	&#13;  influences	&#13;  things	&#13;  [pause].	&#13;  I	&#13;  
think	&#13;  part	&#13;  of	&#13;  it	&#13;  is	&#13;  trying	&#13;  to	&#13;  ease	&#13;  the	&#13;  transition	&#13;  for	&#13;  students	&#13;  not	&#13;  just	&#13;  in	&#13;  the	&#13;  immediate	&#13;  
religious	&#13;  sense.	&#13;  Right,	&#13;  I	&#13;  can	&#13;  reserve	&#13;  prayer	&#13;  rooms,	&#13;  I	&#13;  can	&#13;  hold	&#13;  services,	&#13;  I	&#13;  can	&#13;  bring	&#13;  in	&#13;  
leaders	&#13;  and	&#13;  what-­‐not,	&#13;  but	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  home-­‐y	&#13;  trappings	&#13;  of	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  people's	&#13;  religious	&#13;  
lives	&#13;  that	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  not	&#13;  gonna	&#13;  be	&#13;  able	&#13;  to	&#13;  completely	&#13;  replicate	&#13;  but	&#13;  I	&#13;  can	&#13;  try	&#13;  and	&#13;  offer	&#13;  or	&#13;  
connect	&#13;  to	&#13;  or	&#13;  get	&#13;  a	&#13;  taxi	&#13;  to	&#13;  or	&#13;  something.	&#13;  So	&#13;  that's	&#13;  part	&#13;  of	&#13;  it	&#13;  to	&#13;  is	&#13;  just	&#13;  thinking	&#13;  about	&#13;  
what-­‐-­‐and	&#13;  asking	&#13;  the	&#13;  students-­‐-­‐what	&#13;  feels	&#13;  like	&#13;  home	&#13;  to	&#13;  you.	&#13;  Because	&#13;  sometimes	&#13;  
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and	&#13;  what	&#13;  students	&#13;  and	&#13;  others	&#13;  kind	&#13;  of	&#13;  want	&#13;  and	&#13;  it's	&#13;  working	&#13;  really	&#13;  well	&#13;  and	&#13;  how	&#13;  
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surface	&#13;  communities	&#13;  or	&#13;  any	&#13;  below-­‐surface	&#13;  communities	&#13;  also?	&#13;  	&#13;  
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that	&#13;  maybe	&#13;  their	&#13;  friend	&#13;  is	&#13;  leading.	&#13;  There	&#13;  is	&#13;  a	&#13;  practicing	&#13;  Zen	&#13;  gathering	&#13;  that	&#13;  doesn't	&#13;  
necessarily	&#13;  require	&#13;  you	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  a	&#13;  Zen	&#13;  practitioner	&#13;  and	&#13;  to	&#13;  identify	&#13;  as	&#13;  a	&#13;  Zen	&#13;  Buddhist	&#13;  to	&#13;  
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students	&#13;  as	&#13;  well.	&#13;  And	&#13;  then	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  some	&#13;  students	&#13;  who	&#13;  will	&#13;  get	&#13;  together	&#13;  around	&#13;  a	&#13;  
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semester	&#13;  who	&#13;  got	&#13;  together	&#13;  to	&#13;  go	&#13;  to	&#13;  a	&#13;  Temple	&#13;  for	&#13;  a	&#13;  particular	&#13;  holiday.	&#13;  And	&#13;  it	&#13;  was	&#13;  sort	&#13;  
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feel	&#13;  like	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  probably	&#13;  forgetting	&#13;  something	&#13;  huge	&#13;  right	&#13;  now.	&#13;  There	&#13;  are	&#13;  some	&#13;  other	&#13;  
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there's	&#13;  an	&#13;  inspirational	&#13;  choir	&#13;  called	&#13;  Rejoice,	&#13;  and	&#13;  for	&#13;  many	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  folks	&#13;  there	&#13;  there's	&#13;  a	&#13;  
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um,	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  the	&#13;  circus	&#13;  club	&#13;  has	&#13;  done	&#13;  some	&#13;  things	&#13;  with	&#13;  them.	&#13;  So,	&#13;  again	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  
folks	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  regular	&#13;  yoga	&#13;  practitioners	&#13;  and	&#13;  for	&#13;  them	&#13;  that	&#13;  is	&#13;  part	&#13;  of	&#13;  a	&#13;  religious	&#13;  and	&#13;  
or	&#13;  spiritual	&#13;  practice	&#13;  but	&#13;  it's	&#13;  not	&#13;  necessarily.	&#13;  And	&#13;  then	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  the	&#13;  folks	&#13;  who	&#13;  come	&#13;  
to	&#13;  the	&#13;  Skidmore	&#13;  mindfulness.	&#13;  So	&#13;  we	&#13;  have	&#13;  weekly	&#13;  meditations	&#13;  and	&#13;  yoga	&#13;  practices	&#13;  
and	&#13;  reiki	&#13;  and	&#13;  things	&#13;  like	&#13;  that	&#13;  that	&#13;  students	&#13;  aren't	&#13;  required	&#13;  to	&#13;  or	&#13;  the	&#13;  rest	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  

�community	&#13;  is	&#13;  not	&#13;  required	&#13;  to	&#13;  claim	&#13;  any	&#13;  particular	&#13;  tradition	&#13;  for	&#13;  nor	&#13;  are	&#13;  they	&#13;  likely	&#13;  to	&#13;  
but	&#13;  they	&#13;  can,	&#13;  and	&#13;  many	&#13;  of	&#13;  them	&#13;  do	&#13;  express	&#13;  that	&#13;  this	&#13;  is	&#13;  a	&#13;  spiritual	&#13;  thing	&#13;  for	&#13;  them.	&#13;  	&#13;  	&#13;  
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PD:	&#13;  Yeah	&#13;  [laughs].	&#13;  Oh!	&#13;  I	&#13;  knew	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  gonna	&#13;  forget	&#13;  somebody.	&#13;  When	&#13;  I	&#13;  started	&#13;  talking	&#13;  
about	&#13;  Hayat	&#13;  I	&#13;  said,	&#13;  you	&#13;  know	&#13;  when	&#13;  I	&#13;  got	&#13;  here	&#13;  Hayat	&#13;  was	&#13;  doing	&#13;  all	&#13;  of	&#13;  this	&#13;  and	&#13;  they	&#13;  
still	&#13;  are,	&#13;  but	&#13;  in	&#13;  the	&#13;  past	&#13;  year	&#13;  there's	&#13;  also	&#13;  been	&#13;  a	&#13;  bigger	&#13;  push	&#13;  from	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  
Muslim	&#13;  students	&#13;  to	&#13;  actually	&#13;  have	&#13;  a	&#13;  club	&#13;  that	&#13;  is	&#13;  expressly	&#13;  for	&#13;  Muslim	&#13;  students.	&#13;  And	&#13;  
there's	&#13;  been	&#13;  interest	&#13;  in	&#13;  that	&#13;  since	&#13;  before	&#13;  I	&#13;  got	&#13;  here,	&#13;  but	&#13;  our	&#13;  students	&#13;  are	&#13;  so	&#13;  involved	&#13;  
in	&#13;  so	&#13;  much	&#13;  that	&#13;  it	&#13;  takes	&#13;  students	&#13;  who	&#13;  aren't	&#13;  just	&#13;  interested	&#13;  in	&#13;  it	&#13;  but	&#13;  are	&#13;  interested	&#13;  in	&#13;  
taking	&#13;  leadership	&#13;  in	&#13;  it.	&#13;  And	&#13;  so	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  some	&#13;  students	&#13;  who	&#13;  have	&#13;  started	&#13;  the	&#13;  process	&#13;  
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happens,	&#13;  our	&#13;  office	&#13;  just	&#13;  continues	&#13;  to	&#13;  work	&#13;  with	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  Muslim	&#13;  staff	&#13;  and	&#13;  faculty	&#13;  
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office,	&#13;  if	&#13;  they	&#13;  are,	&#13;  if	&#13;  they	&#13;  have	&#13;  a	&#13;  relationship	&#13;  to	&#13;  these	&#13;  student	&#13;  groups?	&#13;  	&#13;  
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and	&#13;  then	&#13;  a	&#13;  kind	&#13;  of	&#13;  rotating	&#13;  number	&#13;  of	&#13;  student	&#13;  staff.	&#13;  And	&#13;  that	&#13;  includes	&#13;  a	&#13;  coordinator	&#13;  
for	&#13;  Jewish	&#13;  Student	&#13;  Life,	&#13;  Martina	&#13;  Zobel,	&#13;  and	&#13;  a	&#13;  coordinator	&#13;  for	&#13;  the	&#13;  Skidmore	&#13;  
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campus.	&#13;  And	&#13;  so,	&#13;  the	&#13;  three	&#13;  of	&#13;  us	&#13;  are	&#13;  the	&#13;  staff	&#13;  and	&#13;  we	&#13;  collaborate	&#13;  with	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  other	&#13;  
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how	&#13;  the	&#13;  work	&#13;  of	&#13;  our	&#13;  offices	&#13;  might	&#13;  overlap	&#13;  for	&#13;  those	&#13;  programs.	&#13;  We	&#13;  work	&#13;  with	&#13;  the	&#13;  
student	&#13;  leadership	&#13;  offices	&#13;  and	&#13;  their	&#13;  staff	&#13;  because	&#13;  they	&#13;  support	&#13;  the	&#13;  clubs	&#13;  and	&#13;  events	&#13;  
on	&#13;  campus	&#13;  and	&#13;  that's	&#13;  an	&#13;  obvious	&#13;  connection.	&#13;  So	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  some	&#13;  that	&#13;  are	&#13;  quite	&#13;  
obvious.	&#13;  The	&#13;  counseling	&#13;  center	&#13;  does	&#13;  stuff	&#13;  with	&#13;  the	&#13;  Mindfulness	&#13;  program,	&#13;  the	&#13;  
religious	&#13;  studies	&#13;  department	&#13;  will	&#13;  have	&#13;  [sic]	&#13;  us	&#13;  promote	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  our	&#13;  events	&#13;  and	&#13;  vice	&#13;  
versa,	&#13;  so	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  some	&#13;  obvious	&#13;  ones.	&#13;  And	&#13;  then	&#13;  beyond	&#13;  that,	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  stu—er,	&#13;  
sorry,	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  staff	&#13;  and	&#13;  faculty	&#13;  that	&#13;  will	&#13;  attend	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  our	&#13;  offerings.	&#13;  Most	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  
events	&#13;  that	&#13;  we	&#13;  do	&#13;  are	&#13;  open	&#13;  to	&#13;  staff	&#13;  and	&#13;  faculty,	&#13;  so	&#13;  they'll	&#13;  come	&#13;  to	&#13;  Shabbat	&#13;  dinner	&#13;  or	&#13;  

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and	&#13;  I'd	&#13;  say	&#13;  there	&#13;  were	&#13;  maybe	&#13;  thirty-­‐six	&#13;  people	&#13;  there	&#13;  and	&#13;  two-­‐thirds	&#13;  of	&#13;  them	&#13;  were	&#13;  
students	&#13;  and	&#13;  the	&#13;  other	&#13;  third	&#13;  was	&#13;  probably	&#13;  staff	&#13;  and	&#13;  faculty.	&#13;  So	&#13;  they,	&#13;  there's	&#13;  a	&#13;  few.	&#13;  
It's	&#13;  not	&#13;  a	&#13;  majority	&#13;  by	&#13;  any	&#13;  sense,	&#13;  it's	&#13;  not	&#13;  a	&#13;  large	&#13;  group,	&#13;  but	&#13;  there's	&#13;  a	&#13;  handful	&#13;  that	&#13;  do	&#13;  
get	&#13;  involved	&#13;  that	&#13;  way	&#13;  just	&#13;  by	&#13;  attending	&#13;  and	&#13;  participating.	&#13;  And	&#13;  then	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  some	&#13;  
who	&#13;  get	&#13;  involved	&#13;  in	&#13;  really	&#13;  supporting	&#13;  the	&#13;  work	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  communities	&#13;  and	&#13;  so,	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  
staff	&#13;  and	&#13;  faculty	&#13;  who	&#13;  don't	&#13;  just	&#13;  come	&#13;  to	&#13;  the	&#13;  events	&#13;  but	&#13;  will	&#13;  help	&#13;  with	&#13;  hiring	&#13;  new	&#13;  
staff,	&#13;  finding	&#13;  new	&#13;  advisors,	&#13;  being	&#13;  advisors	&#13;  themselves.	&#13;  And	&#13;  sometimes	&#13;  I	&#13;  know	&#13;  about	&#13;  
that	&#13;  and	&#13;  sometimes	&#13;  I	&#13;  learn	&#13;  about	&#13;  it	&#13;  later.	&#13;  You	&#13;  know,	&#13;  sometimes	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  staff	&#13;  or	&#13;  
faculty	&#13;  who	&#13;  have	&#13;  been	&#13;  helping	&#13;  students	&#13;  get	&#13;  to	&#13;  church	&#13;  for	&#13;  years	&#13;  and	&#13;  I	&#13;  don't	&#13;  find	&#13;  out	&#13;  
about	&#13;  it	&#13;  until	&#13;  a	&#13;  casual	&#13;  conversation.	&#13;  So,	&#13;  yeah	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  it's	&#13;  formalized	&#13;  and	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  it's	&#13;  
very	&#13;  much	&#13;  about	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  our	&#13;  staff	&#13;  and	&#13;  faculty	&#13;  just	&#13;  making	&#13;  connections	&#13;  and	&#13;  finding	&#13;  
out	&#13;  a	&#13;  way	&#13;  that	&#13;  they	&#13;  can	&#13;  help	&#13;  students	&#13;  get	&#13;  connected.	&#13;  And	&#13;  every	&#13;  once	&#13;  in	&#13;  a	&#13;  while	&#13;  
there's	&#13;  a	&#13;  collaboration	&#13;  that's	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  less	&#13;  expected	&#13;  so,	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  trying	&#13;  to	&#13;  think	&#13;  of	&#13;  one	&#13;  but,	&#13;  
you	&#13;  know	&#13;  there	&#13;  have	&#13;  been	&#13;  partnerships	&#13;  with	&#13;  the	&#13;  Tang	&#13;  Teaching	&#13;  Museum,	&#13;  and	&#13;  there	&#13;  
have	&#13;  been	&#13;  partnerships	&#13;  with	&#13;  different	&#13;  academic	&#13;  departments,	&#13;  we've	&#13;  worked	&#13;  with	&#13;  
somebody,	&#13;  actually	&#13;  from	&#13;  Documentary	&#13;  Studies	&#13;  Adam	&#13;  Tinkle,	&#13;  and	&#13;  he	&#13;  does	&#13;  work	&#13;  with	&#13;  
sound	&#13;  and	&#13;  we	&#13;  do	&#13;  work	&#13;  with	&#13;  sound	&#13;  healing	&#13;  and	&#13;  things	&#13;  and	&#13;  so	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  some	&#13;  neat	&#13;  
overlaps	&#13;  of	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  that	&#13;  work.	&#13;  And	&#13;  I	&#13;  like	&#13;  to	&#13;  keep	&#13;  a	&#13;  sort	&#13;  of	&#13;  somewhat	&#13;  secret	&#13;  entirely	&#13;  
unofficial	&#13;  list	&#13;  of	&#13;  staff	&#13;  and	&#13;  faculty	&#13;  who	&#13;  have	&#13;  expressed	&#13;  to	&#13;  me	&#13;  that	&#13;  they're	&#13;  willing	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  
called	&#13;  upon	&#13;  for	&#13;  certain	&#13;  things.	&#13;  So	&#13;  if	&#13;  there's	&#13;  a	&#13;  student	&#13;  who's	&#13;  coming	&#13;  to	&#13;  me	&#13;  with	&#13;  
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ABS:	&#13;  Very	&#13;  cool.	&#13;  So,	&#13;  you	&#13;  just	&#13;  said	&#13;  that	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  students	&#13;  whose	&#13;  faiths	&#13;  might	&#13;  
not	&#13;  be	&#13;  represented	&#13;  in	&#13;  this	&#13;  area,	&#13;  but	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  wondering	&#13;  if	&#13;  you	&#13;  can	&#13;  talk	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  bit	&#13;  about	&#13;  
what	&#13;  connections	&#13;  have	&#13;  been	&#13;  made	&#13;  to	&#13;  groups	&#13;  in	&#13;  this	&#13;  area	&#13;  and	&#13;  Skidmore,	&#13;  and	&#13;  if	&#13;  you've	&#13;  
seen	&#13;  a	&#13;  change	&#13;  in	&#13;  that?	&#13;  Either	&#13;  from	&#13;  when	&#13;  you	&#13;  were	&#13;  here	&#13;  growing	&#13;  up	&#13;  or	&#13;  from	&#13;  being	&#13;  
here	&#13;  for	&#13;  three	&#13;  years	&#13;  and	&#13;  working	&#13;  in	&#13;  this	&#13;  position,	&#13;  and	&#13;  or	&#13;  if	&#13;  you	&#13;  have	&#13;  a	&#13;  vision	&#13;  for	&#13;  that	&#13;  
going	&#13;  forward,	&#13;  in	&#13;  terms	&#13;  of	&#13;  where	&#13;  you	&#13;  want	&#13;  those	&#13;  relationships	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  or	&#13;  go.	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
PD:	&#13;  Sure,	&#13;  um,	&#13;  hm.	&#13;  How	&#13;  to	&#13;  start.	&#13;  There	&#13;  are	&#13;  some	&#13;  formal	&#13;  connections,	&#13;  so	&#13;  the	&#13;  local	&#13;  
reform	&#13;  synagogue	&#13;  Temple	&#13;  Sinai,	&#13;  their,	&#13;  one	&#13;  of	&#13;  their	&#13;  co-­‐rabbi's	&#13;  Linda	&#13;  Motzkin	&#13;  does	&#13;  
have	&#13;  an	&#13;  official	&#13;  role	&#13;  with	&#13;  us	&#13;  as	&#13;  a	&#13;  High	&#13;  Holy	&#13;  Days	&#13;  chaplain.	&#13;  Before	&#13;  that	&#13;  she	&#13;  worked	&#13;  
even	&#13;  more	&#13;  frequently,	&#13;  or	&#13;  as	&#13;  a	&#13;  more	&#13;  permanent,	&#13;  not	&#13;  that's	&#13;  not	&#13;  right,	&#13;  a	&#13;  more-­‐-­‐she	&#13;  had	&#13;  
a	&#13;  larger	&#13;  role	&#13;  at	&#13;  Skidmore	&#13;  previously,	&#13;  in	&#13;  terms	&#13;  of	&#13;  Jewish	&#13;  student	&#13;  life.	&#13;  And	&#13;  stepped	&#13;  
back	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  from	&#13;  that	&#13;  but	&#13;  we're	&#13;  very	&#13;  thankful	&#13;  she	&#13;  stayed	&#13;  on	&#13;  to	&#13;  work	&#13;  with	&#13;  us	&#13;  during	&#13;  
high	&#13;  holy	&#13;  days.	&#13;  And	&#13;  part	&#13;  of	&#13;  that	&#13;  is	&#13;  that	&#13;  that	&#13;  congregation	&#13;  is	&#13;  able	&#13;  to	&#13;  use	&#13;  Skidmore	&#13;  
Campus	&#13;  spaces	&#13;  for	&#13;  High	&#13;  Holy	&#13;  Day	&#13;  services	&#13;  where	&#13;  the	&#13;  numbers	&#13;  would	&#13;  be	&#13;  too	&#13;  much	&#13;  
for	&#13;  their	&#13;  space.	&#13;  And	&#13;  it	&#13;  gives	&#13;  our	&#13;  students	&#13;  the	&#13;  gift	&#13;  of	&#13;  being	&#13;  able	&#13;  to	&#13;  attend	&#13;  services	&#13;  
both	&#13;  on	&#13;  their	&#13;  campus	&#13;  and	&#13;  with	&#13;  a	&#13;  multi-­‐generational	&#13;  faith	&#13;  community.	&#13;  Which	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  

�is	&#13;  really	&#13;  wonderful.	&#13;  So	&#13;  that's	&#13;  been	&#13;  going	&#13;  on	&#13;  for	&#13;  years	&#13;  and	&#13;  years	&#13;  and	&#13;  years.	&#13;  The	&#13;  other	&#13;  
connections	&#13;  are	&#13;  primarily	&#13;  unofficial.	&#13;  Although,	&#13;  also	&#13;  within	&#13;  the	&#13;  Jewish	&#13;  community	&#13;  
the	&#13;  Saratoga	&#13;  Chabad	&#13;  works	&#13;  with	&#13;  my	&#13;  office	&#13;  to	&#13;  come	&#13;  onto	&#13;  campus	&#13;  and	&#13;  do	&#13;  table	&#13;  
outreach	&#13;  basically,	&#13;  and	&#13;  also	&#13;  working	&#13;  with	&#13;  the	&#13;  Jewish	&#13;  student	&#13;  community	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  bit.	&#13;  
And	&#13;  then	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  churches	&#13;  that	&#13;  are	&#13;  more	&#13;  likely	&#13;  to	&#13;  attract	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  our	&#13;  students.	&#13;  So	&#13;  
for	&#13;  instance	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  students	&#13;  involved	&#13;  in	&#13;  Christian	&#13;  Fellowship,	&#13;  or	&#13;  at	&#13;  least	&#13;  a	&#13;  
decent	&#13;  sized	&#13;  group	&#13;  of	&#13;  them	&#13;  will	&#13;  carpool	&#13;  all	&#13;  to	&#13;  the	&#13;  same	&#13;  church	&#13;  on	&#13;  Sunday	&#13;  mornings.	&#13;  
And	&#13;  that's	&#13;  not	&#13;  an	&#13;  official	&#13;  partnership	&#13;  in	&#13;  any	&#13;  way	&#13;  it's	&#13;  just	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  bit	&#13;  of	&#13;  word	&#13;  of	&#13;  mouth	&#13;  
and	&#13;  a	&#13;  little	&#13;  bit	&#13;  of	&#13;  common	&#13;  traditions	&#13;  and	&#13;  so	&#13;  that	&#13;  happens.	&#13;  With	&#13;  the	&#13;  Catholic	&#13;  churches	&#13;  
there	&#13;  are	&#13;  two	&#13;  parishes	&#13;  in	&#13;  town	&#13;  and	&#13;  I've	&#13;  invited	&#13;  priests	&#13;  and	&#13;  deacons	&#13;  from	&#13;  both	&#13;  of	&#13;  
them	&#13;  to	&#13;  come	&#13;  and	&#13;  do	&#13;  services	&#13;  on	&#13;  campus	&#13;  and	&#13;  so	&#13;  that'll	&#13;  be	&#13;  a	&#13;  wonderful	&#13;  way	&#13;  of	&#13;  
making	&#13;  that	&#13;  connection	&#13;  happen.	&#13;  But,	&#13;  students	&#13;  can	&#13;  also	&#13;  just	&#13;  go	&#13;  wherever	&#13;  they'd	&#13;  like.	&#13;  
And	&#13;  so,	&#13;  similarly	&#13;  to	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  staff	&#13;  connections	&#13;  I	&#13;  don't	&#13;  know	&#13;  sometimes	&#13;  when	&#13;  
students	&#13;  are	&#13;  attending	&#13;  services	&#13;  in	&#13;  town.	&#13;  I	&#13;  like	&#13;  to	&#13;  try	&#13;  and	&#13;  find	&#13;  out	&#13;  so	&#13;  that	&#13;  if	&#13;  other	&#13;  
students	&#13;  are	&#13;  looking	&#13;  for	&#13;  someone	&#13;  to	&#13;  go	&#13;  with	&#13;  I	&#13;  can	&#13;  make	&#13;  some	&#13;  introductions.	&#13;  And	&#13;  I	&#13;  
think	&#13;  that's	&#13;  generally	&#13;  the	&#13;  same	&#13;  as	&#13;  when	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  growing	&#13;  up,	&#13;  though	&#13;  I	&#13;  certainly	&#13;  wasn't	&#13;  
aware	&#13;  of	&#13;  religious	&#13;  life	&#13;  at	&#13;  colleges.	&#13;  It	&#13;  wasn't	&#13;  something	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  thinking	&#13;  of	&#13;  much	&#13;  
except	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  knew	&#13;  the	&#13;  chaplain	&#13;  here	&#13;  when	&#13;  I	&#13;  was	&#13;  younger.	&#13;  And	&#13;  in	&#13;  terms	&#13;  of	&#13;  what	&#13;  I	&#13;  
want	&#13;  to	&#13;  see,	&#13;  hyper-­‐locally	&#13;  like	&#13;  right	&#13;  in	&#13;  Saratoga	&#13;  Springs,	&#13;  I	&#13;  do	&#13;  want	&#13;  to	&#13;  get	&#13;  to	&#13;  know	&#13;  
more	&#13;  and	&#13;  more	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  communities	&#13;  and	&#13;  the	&#13;  leaders.	&#13;  A	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  them	&#13;  will	&#13;  contact	&#13;  me	&#13;  
about	&#13;  events	&#13;  and	&#13;  I'll	&#13;  try	&#13;  and	&#13;  promote	&#13;  those,	&#13;  but	&#13;  there's	&#13;  also	&#13;  a,	&#13;  I	&#13;  have	&#13;  the	&#13;  sense	&#13;  of,	&#13;  
I'm	&#13;  also	&#13;  feeling	&#13;  a	&#13;  protection	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  campus?	&#13;  That	&#13;  there	&#13;  are,	&#13;  unfortunately,	&#13;  always	&#13;  
going	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  religious	&#13;  groups	&#13;  that	&#13;  aren't-­‐-­‐that	&#13;  don't	&#13;  necessarily	&#13;  have	&#13;  our	&#13;  students	&#13;  
best	&#13;  interest	&#13;  in	&#13;  mind	&#13;  or	&#13;  that	&#13;  bring	&#13;  a	&#13;  style	&#13;  of	&#13;  communication	&#13;  that	&#13;  is	&#13;  aggressive	&#13;  in	&#13;  a	&#13;  
way	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  don't	&#13;  think	&#13;  a	&#13;  majority	&#13;  of	&#13;  our	&#13;  students	&#13;  would	&#13;  like.	&#13;  And	&#13;  so	&#13;  because	&#13;  of	&#13;  that,	&#13;  
I've	&#13;  been	&#13;  hesitant	&#13;  to	&#13;  just	&#13;  put	&#13;  out	&#13;  a	&#13;  blanket	&#13;  invitation	&#13;  to	&#13;  religious	&#13;  groups	&#13;  to	&#13;  come	&#13;  to	&#13;  
campus.	&#13;  I	&#13;  usually	&#13;  wait	&#13;  for	&#13;  students	&#13;  to	&#13;  express	&#13;  an	&#13;  interest	&#13;  in	&#13;  a	&#13;  particular	&#13;  community	&#13;  
and	&#13;  then	&#13;  I	&#13;  will	&#13;  reach	&#13;  out.	&#13;  So	&#13;  for	&#13;  instance	&#13;  with	&#13;  the	&#13;  local	&#13;  Quaker	&#13;  community.	&#13;  You	&#13;  
know	&#13;  they	&#13;  come	&#13;  onto	&#13;  campus	&#13;  but	&#13;  because	&#13;  there's	&#13;  a	&#13;  student	&#13;  interest.	&#13;  So	&#13;  I	&#13;  would	&#13;  like	&#13;  
there	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  connections.	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  especially	&#13;  there's	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  potential	&#13;  within	&#13;  the	&#13;  
volunteer	&#13;  work	&#13;  and	&#13;  social	&#13;  justice	&#13;  side	&#13;  of	&#13;  things.	&#13;  A	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  our	&#13;  local	&#13;  religious	&#13;  
communities	&#13;  are	&#13;  on	&#13;  the	&#13;  front	&#13;  lines	&#13;  of	&#13;  working	&#13;  with	&#13;  immigrants	&#13;  and	&#13;  refugees	&#13;  in	&#13;  the	&#13;  
area.	&#13;  They're	&#13;  the	&#13;  ones	&#13;  that	&#13;  make	&#13;  sure	&#13;  that	&#13;  the	&#13;  soup	&#13;  kitchen	&#13;  is	&#13;  staffed	&#13;  and	&#13;  that	&#13;  there	&#13;  
are,	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  them	&#13;  are	&#13;  volunteers	&#13;  at	&#13;  the	&#13;  homeless	&#13;  shelters	&#13;  and	&#13;  so	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  
ways	&#13;  there	&#13;  to	&#13;  strengthen	&#13;  already	&#13;  existing	&#13;  partnerships.	&#13;  We	&#13;  do	&#13;  have	&#13;  students	&#13;  
already	&#13;  who	&#13;  volunteer	&#13;  with	&#13;  all	&#13;  of	&#13;  those	&#13;  programs.	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  we	&#13;  could	&#13;  do	&#13;  it	&#13;  more	&#13;  and	&#13;  
we	&#13;  could	&#13;  do	&#13;  it	&#13;  more	&#13;  specifically	&#13;  with	&#13;  our	&#13;  religious	&#13;  students.	&#13;  And	&#13;  then	&#13;  beyond	&#13;  that,	&#13;  
beyond	&#13;  Saratoga	&#13;  Springs	&#13;  we've	&#13;  had	&#13;  a	&#13;  good	&#13;  experience	&#13;  getting	&#13;  students	&#13;  to	&#13;  one	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  
mosques	&#13;  for	&#13;  some	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  Eids.	&#13;  Or,	&#13;  we	&#13;  partnered	&#13;  with	&#13;  one	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  mosques	&#13;  on	&#13;  a	&#13;  
service	&#13;  project.	&#13;  And	&#13;  that's	&#13;  been	&#13;  wonderful	&#13;  because	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  plenty	&#13;  of	&#13;  colleges	&#13;  and	&#13;  
universities	&#13;  in	&#13;  the	&#13;  capital	&#13;  district.	&#13;  And	&#13;  Skidmore's	&#13;  small	&#13;  little	&#13;  group	&#13;  of	&#13;  students	&#13;  is	&#13;  
not	&#13;  going	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  their	&#13;  biggest	&#13;  population	&#13;  of	&#13;  young	&#13;  adult	&#13;  outreach,	&#13;  but	&#13;  it's	&#13;  been	&#13;  nice	&#13;  to	&#13;  
still	&#13;  make	&#13;  those	&#13;  connections	&#13;  and	&#13;  I	&#13;  want	&#13;  to	&#13;  strengthen	&#13;  that	&#13;  as	&#13;  well.	&#13;  Yeah	&#13;  it's	&#13;  
interesting	&#13;  because	&#13;  a	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  religious	&#13;  communities,	&#13;  and	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  speaking	&#13;  primarily	&#13;  out	&#13;  of	&#13;  
the	&#13;  Christian	&#13;  context	&#13;  but	&#13;  I	&#13;  know	&#13;  that	&#13;  it's	&#13;  not	&#13;  that	&#13;  different	&#13;  in	&#13;  other	&#13;  contexts.	&#13;  A	&#13;  lot	&#13;  of	&#13;  
religious	&#13;  communities	&#13;  are	&#13;  feeling	&#13;  a	&#13;  need	&#13;  to	&#13;  hold	&#13;  onto	&#13;  young	&#13;  adults	&#13;  with	&#13;  all	&#13;  of	&#13;  their	&#13;  

�might,	&#13;  and	&#13;  I've	&#13;  been	&#13;  on	&#13;  the	&#13;  leadership	&#13;  of	&#13;  communities	&#13;  that	&#13;  do	&#13;  this	&#13;  where	&#13;  we,	&#13;  we	&#13;  see	&#13;  
young	&#13;  adults	&#13;  and	&#13;  we	&#13;  see	&#13;  numbers.	&#13;  We	&#13;  see	&#13;  people	&#13;  to	&#13;  keep	&#13;  our	&#13;  traditions	&#13;  going.	&#13;  And	&#13;  
it's	&#13;  very	&#13;  self-­‐-­‐it's	&#13;  very	&#13;  much	&#13;  about	&#13;  us	&#13;  as	&#13;  a	&#13;  religious	&#13;  community	&#13;  wanting	&#13;  to	&#13;  not	&#13;  die	&#13;  
out,	&#13;  and	&#13;  I	&#13;  want	&#13;  to	&#13;  help	&#13;  my	&#13;  own	&#13;  church	&#13;  but	&#13;  also	&#13;  all	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  religious	&#13;  communities	&#13;  in	&#13;  
town	&#13;  approach	&#13;  Skidmore	&#13;  students	&#13;  with	&#13;  a	&#13;  much	&#13;  more	&#13;  giving,	&#13;  a	&#13;  much	&#13;  more	&#13;  outward	&#13;  
looking	&#13;  purpose.	&#13;  That	&#13;  this	&#13;  is	&#13;  not	&#13;  about	&#13;  whether	&#13;  or	&#13;  not	&#13;  we	&#13;  get	&#13;  to	&#13;  say,	&#13;  "hey	&#13;  we've	&#13;  got	&#13;  
seven	&#13;  college	&#13;  students	&#13;  on	&#13;  our	&#13;  lists,	&#13;  we're	&#13;  not	&#13;  gonna	&#13;  die	&#13;  out,"	&#13;  or	&#13;  "we're	&#13;  really	&#13;  cool	&#13;  
with	&#13;  the	&#13;  young	&#13;  people,"	&#13;  but	&#13;  more	&#13;  that	&#13;  isn't	&#13;  it	&#13;  great	&#13;  that	&#13;  these	&#13;  one	&#13;  student	&#13;  or	&#13;  these	&#13;  
two	&#13;  students	&#13;  are	&#13;  being	&#13;  fed	&#13;  by	&#13;  this	&#13;  ministry.	&#13;  So	&#13;  that's	&#13;  something	&#13;  I'd	&#13;  like	&#13;  to	&#13;  see	&#13;  
happen.	&#13;  	&#13;  	&#13;  
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ABS:	&#13;  Thank	&#13;  you	&#13;  for	&#13;  sharing.	&#13;  That's	&#13;  all	&#13;  the	&#13;  questions	&#13;  I	&#13;  have	&#13;  but	&#13;  if	&#13;  there's	&#13;  anything	&#13;  
you	&#13;  want	&#13;  to	&#13;  add	&#13;  that	&#13;  you	&#13;  felt	&#13;  like	&#13;  didn't	&#13;  get	&#13;  in	&#13;  there?	&#13;  	&#13;  
	&#13;  
PD:	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  one	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  things	&#13;  I'd	&#13;  like	&#13;  to	&#13;  see	&#13;  both	&#13;  on	&#13;  campus	&#13;  and	&#13;  in	&#13;  Saratoga,	&#13;  and	&#13;  I	&#13;  
think	&#13;  there	&#13;  are	&#13;  ways	&#13;  to	&#13;  maybe	&#13;  make	&#13;  it	&#13;  happen	&#13;  as	&#13;  a	&#13;  campus	&#13;  community	&#13;  partnership,	&#13;  
is	&#13;  more	&#13;  engagement	&#13;  across	&#13;  ideological	&#13;  lines	&#13;  of	&#13;  religious	&#13;  communities.	&#13;  For	&#13;  example	&#13;  
you	&#13;  show	&#13;  up	&#13;  to	&#13;  certain	&#13;  meetings	&#13;  in	&#13;  town	&#13;  of	&#13;  religious	&#13;  leaders	&#13;  working	&#13;  on	&#13;  a	&#13;  particular	&#13;  
issue	&#13;  and	&#13;  you	&#13;  can	&#13;  sort	&#13;  of	&#13;  predict	&#13;  who's	&#13;  going	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  there.	&#13;  And	&#13;  it's	&#13;  not	&#13;  that	&#13;  they're	&#13;  all	&#13;  
the	&#13;  same	&#13;  religion	&#13;  it's	&#13;  that	&#13;  you're	&#13;  pretty	&#13;  sure	&#13;  they're	&#13;  all	&#13;  the	&#13;  same	&#13;  politics,	&#13;  or	&#13;  they're	&#13;  
all	&#13;  the	&#13;  same,	&#13;  you	&#13;  know	&#13;  social	&#13;  views	&#13;  on	&#13;  different	&#13;  issues.	&#13;  And	&#13;  so	&#13;  one	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  things	&#13;  
that's	&#13;  great	&#13;  right	&#13;  now	&#13;  that's	&#13;  happening	&#13;  is	&#13;  two	&#13;  of	&#13;  the	&#13;  churches-­‐-­‐so	&#13;  the	&#13;  church	&#13;  where	&#13;  
the	&#13;  freeze	&#13;  shelter	&#13;  is	&#13;  hosted	&#13;  where	&#13;  Code	&#13;  Blue	&#13;  is	&#13;  hosted,	&#13;  Soul	&#13;  Saving	&#13;  Station,	&#13;  is	&#13;  very	&#13;  
different	&#13;  from	&#13;  the	&#13;  church	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  attend,	&#13;  but	&#13;  the	&#13;  church	&#13;  that	&#13;  I	&#13;  attend	&#13;  is	&#13;  also	&#13;  helping	&#13;  
out	&#13;  Code	&#13;  Blue	&#13;  with	&#13;  some	&#13;  office	&#13;  space	&#13;  and	&#13;  some	&#13;  overflow	&#13;  space	&#13;  and	&#13;  housing	&#13;  people	&#13;  
when	&#13;  Soul	&#13;  Saving	&#13;  Station	&#13;  doesn't	&#13;  have	&#13;  enough	&#13;  room.	&#13;  And	&#13;  those	&#13;  two	&#13;  churches	&#13;  could	&#13;  
not	&#13;  be	&#13;  more	&#13;  different	&#13;  ideologically	&#13;  or	&#13;  theologically	&#13;  and	&#13;  still	&#13;  both	&#13;  be	&#13;  called	&#13;  Christian.	&#13;  
But	&#13;  they	&#13;  are	&#13;  [laughs],	&#13;  and	&#13;  they're	&#13;  both	&#13;  doing	&#13;  this.	&#13;  And	&#13;  I	&#13;  think	&#13;  that	&#13;  kind	&#13;  of	&#13;  
partnership,	&#13;  and	&#13;  that	&#13;  kind	&#13;  of	&#13;  getting	&#13;  to	&#13;  know	&#13;  each	&#13;  other	&#13;  could	&#13;  be	&#13;  happening	&#13;  more	&#13;  at	&#13;  
Skidmore	&#13;  as	&#13;  well	&#13;  and	&#13;  in	&#13;  the	&#13;  town	&#13;  as	&#13;  well,	&#13;  so	&#13;  that	&#13;  we're	&#13;  expanding	&#13;  what	&#13;  it	&#13;  means	&#13;  to	&#13;  
be	&#13;  religious	&#13;  for	&#13;  people	&#13;  who	&#13;  have	&#13;  doubts	&#13;  about	&#13;  their	&#13;  opinions	&#13;  on	&#13;  what	&#13;  it	&#13;  is	&#13;  to	&#13;  be	&#13;  
religious.	&#13;  Maybe	&#13;  not	&#13;  doubts	&#13;  about	&#13;  their	&#13;  opinions,	&#13;  doubts	&#13;  about	&#13;  people	&#13;  who	&#13;  are	&#13;  
religious,	&#13;  or	&#13;  doubts	&#13;  about	&#13;  people	&#13;  who	&#13;  are	&#13;  religious	&#13;  in	&#13;  a	&#13;  way	&#13;  that	&#13;  is	&#13;  different	&#13;  from	&#13;  
them.	&#13;  So	&#13;  not	&#13;  necessarily	&#13;  interfaith	&#13;  cooperation	&#13;  but	&#13;  even	&#13;  within	&#13;  a	&#13;  tradition	&#13;  across	&#13;  
ideological	&#13;  bounds.	&#13;  	&#13;  	&#13;  
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ABS:	&#13;  Well,	&#13;  I	&#13;  wish	&#13;  you	&#13;  luck	&#13;  in	&#13;  this	&#13;  office	&#13;  	&#13;  
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�PD:	&#13;  Thank	&#13;  you	&#13;  	&#13;  
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ABS:	&#13;  And	&#13;  all	&#13;  of	&#13;  your	&#13;  goals	&#13;  	&#13;  
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PD:	&#13;  Thank	&#13;  you	&#13;  	&#13;  
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ABS:	&#13;  Thank	&#13;  you	&#13;  so	&#13;  much	&#13;  for	&#13;  being	&#13;  part	&#13;  of	&#13;  this	&#13;  interview,	&#13;  and	&#13;  I'm	&#13;  not	&#13;  sure	&#13;  when	&#13;  it	&#13;  
will	&#13;  go	&#13;  up	&#13;  but	&#13;  I	&#13;  will	&#13;  email	&#13;  you	&#13;  the	&#13;  link	&#13;  when	&#13;  it	&#13;  does.	&#13;  	&#13;  	&#13;  
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              <text>Ari Bogom-Shanon: Ok, if you wouldn't mind just stating your name? &#13;
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Parker Diggory: My name is Parker Diggory. &#13;
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ABS: And your title. &#13;
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PD: I'm the director of Religious and Spiritual Life at Skidmore College. &#13;
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ABS: Great, thank you. So we're here on February 16th in Parker's office at Skidmore. So I'd like to just start off by asking about your connection to Skidmore College and where that started and what you do here now.  &#13;
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PD: Sure, so my connection to Skidmore college is really life long, both of my parents taught here, my father taught here for I don't know, three decades or more, and so I knew the campus from my earliest memories. I went to summer camp here one summer, I had one of my first jobs here when the Tang opened, working there. Yeah so I've been connected to the community in a number of ways, coming to performances, things like that. I took classes here while I was in high school as a special student, and then when I left for college and grad school and all of that I didn't have much of a connection to the campus for about fifteen years I would say. And then, just three years ago I came back to take on this position, at first part time and then full time, and now like I said I'm the director of Religious and Spiritual Life and that means that I work with other offices in Campus Life and Engagement and in Student Affairs to support the students primarily but really the whole campus in their religious life, in their search for spiritual connection, in their growing awareness of religion in general in the world.  &#13;
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ABS: Great, thank you. That's a bit about your connection to Skidmore, now I'm wondering if you can talk a bit about your connection to Saratoga, focusing on faith-based communities or if there's like a faith-based journey that brought you to this particular position here.  &#13;
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PD: Sure, so, again born and raised in Saratoga Springs. Um, went to public schools here and grew up in the same church that I'm actually attending now, which is the Presbyterian New England Congregational Church on Circular Street in Saratoga. And, it wasn't a very, hm, all-encompassing kind of church life, where everything you do and everything your family does is sort of, is connected to that community, but it was certainly very big in my life. We went to church a lot of Sundays, at least during the school year. We did volunteer work with them. That's where I went to youth group and went on trips and so that really was my forming—my formational community in a lot of ways. It's where a lot of my strongest friendships developed, in terms of you know when I was a teenager, the people who I still speak to now as an adult from my childhood a lot of them are people I knew through church. And then also that meant that other--that's how I got to know some other religious communities. There were some interfaith things that happen or ecumenical things. That's how I got to know the rabbis at Temple Sinai, because our congregation would do things together, or, you know there was usually a Thanksgiving kind of multi-faith prayer and just event, community event, that would happen and there would be different religious communities represented there. Yeah so that, and they, the church that I was raised in, like I said it's Presbyterian and Congregational which are two denominations and I personally am part of the Presbyterian denomination and that eventually became a path for me in terms of my professional development in that I went to seminary and I am in a sort of long, scenic route towards ordination in that church.  &#13;
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ABS: You talked a little about coming back to the same church community when you came back I was wondering if you could expand on what it was like to come back to this community fifteen years later.  &#13;
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PD: Wow, yeah, in many ways it was just wonderful to be able to come back to my home church community that it's, even while I was gone I would come back for holidays, or if I just happened to be in town over a weekend I would go to church. The congregation helped support part of my education, you know, this was who I kept in touch with so, in some ways I had never completely left. But, I would say, I guess if there was anything challenging about it, it was that I had grown in my faith journey in ways that I was a little worried wouldn't fit in to my home church. That, our church is known for a really broad diversity of theological beliefs and, I just, I didn't have the beliefs as I when I was younger which it to be expected but I just wanted to make sure that I was still gonna fit in and they, they're so accepting of so many beliefs that I knew intellectually that that would be fine, but there's still that nervousness of, if I don't feel like this is my home church now, like what would I even do, because it's where my parents go. I'm connected to so many families there, if I all of a sudden started going to say the Methodist Church or the Episcopalian Church like people would have questions. And, I never seriously considered not going, but there were times where I thought, if I had moved to this town as an adult and had never gone to any of the churches in town, is this the congregation I would end up. And I honestly don't know. I think it would be, just because it's unique in a lot of ways in this town and has a lot things I look for, but it was an interesting question to think about. And in other ways it's just been good to get back and to church life and, you know, I ended up being nominated for the board of the church and church leadership so it's a very different role than I had before, where I'd still get treated a little bit as one of the kids of the church but I'm, I'm treated as an adult and as a leader and with expectations and responsibilities which are different, which I value. &#13;
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ABS: Thanks for sharing. So I think this is maybe a little of a transition into Skidmore and what that role is like but I'm wondering, for you coming to Saratoga was really coming home to you community and you talked about how we practice [sic] is so much bound up with how we grew up and what communities we grew up in, and for a lot of people coming to Skidmore they're leaving their home communities. So I'm wondering if you thought at all about that kind of relationship of working with a bunch of students here who are leaving their home communities and for you it's coming back to your community and if that influences your role here. &#13;
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PD: Mhm. Sure, I think it does. I think one would be I try and use the fact that I do know this community really well, this Saratoga community as a way to connect students not just by which denomination they're looking for or you know, the name of the tradition they're looking for, but sort of getting to know the personality of the student and the personality of the congregation, and being able to say, you know, I think you're really gonna like this leader, or, you know, there are some folks who go to this particular service that are looking at the same questions that you're asking. And so, part of it is that, and I don't think it's necessary to do my role to have that sort of historical knowledge, but I've certainly tried to use it that way. And then the other bit is that I have to rely on my own college experience where I wasn't in Saratoga Springs, to relate a little bit more to what the students are coming in with. So, I went to college in Middlebury, Vermont, and, you know, they don't have a Presbyterian church there and so I found the next best thing for me which was actually a Congregational Church, and I looked up the worship times and I went. I was one of the only students who did, sometimes my sister came, she was at the same school, and that was it. And I realized only, you know, months later who else at the school might have some of my similar religious beliefs. That I didn't, I didn't find my kind of on campus religious community in some ways ever, but even a small part of it I didn't find for a while. And so I try and hold on to that experience and fill in some of the blanks I wish had been filled in for me, as somebody who didn't really know the landscape. What are some other ways that influences things [pause]. I think part of it is trying to ease the transition for students not just in the immediate religious sense. Right, I can reserve prayer rooms, I can hold services, I can bring in leaders and what-not, but there are home-y trappings of a lot of people's religious lives that I'm not gonna be able to completely replicate but I can try and offer or connect to or get a taxi to or something. So that's part of it to is just thinking about what--and asking the students--what feels like home to you. Because sometimes when they're asking me for support or for access to a community, you know they're using category names and they're using tradition names. But I remember, I was studying abroad, I did a gap semester after high school and I was in Jamaica, and I went church with my host family, but sometimes I would go to a church that was a little more like the one I grew up in. And I walked in and they had the same exact brass cross on the altar, and I almost cried. And, it's that kind of thing that I know that will help students, and it might just take a while to figure out what that is. To find that familiarity. So I'm not sure if that answers the--your questions. &#13;
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ABS: Yeah, definitely, wow. Yeah it is almost that search for home that students come in looking for.  &#13;
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PD: Mhm. &#13;
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ABS: Ok, so you've been here three years? &#13;
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PD: Something like that. &#13;
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ABS: Something like that? Which is pretty recent. Can you talk a little bit about your first impressions of the religious community at Skidmore? &#13;
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PD: Hm. Well I admit that I had sort of made some assumptions based on my experience at a somewhat similar college and my knowledge of Skidmore. So, I probably didn't come in with a completely open mind in terms of, just, what's my first impression, you know completely blank slate kind of thing. It was more that I kind of assumed that it would be, not the most overtly religious campus, that it would be, um, you know that religions that are generally minorities in society would probably be a little more organized just by necessity, that we would have a lot of students who were maybe interested when they went home in still attending a service or connecting with a tradition. But at least while they were at college it didn't seem like a priority. And so that was true, those assumptions were proved pretty true. I think my impression was that it was very much, [pause], first word that comes to mind is underground, but that has some sort of like purposeful hiding that is only occasionally true. But that it was below the surface, how 'bout that, that the religious life at Skidmore was and still is to a great extent something that happens in a person to person sort of way, in a word of mouth sort of way. It's not the first thing you find out about somebody, it's not the majority of the events that are advertised. But when you scratch the surface it's there. And so part of my job is figuring out how much of that under-the-surface-ness is actually fine and desirable and what students and others kind of want and it's working really well and how much of it is happening simply because there isn't another way. Um, what else was I struck by. That's the first thing that comes to mind.  &#13;
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ABS: This is a bit more of just a practical question, but could you just talk a little bit about the different communities that are here, whether it's the more above-the-surface communities or any below-surface communities also? &#13;
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PD: Sure, so in terms of named groups we have: Hillel, which is a Jewish student organization, broad spectrum in terms of tradition. Because we don't have, not just because, but we don't have kosher offerings at Skidmore and that and other reasons mean that we don't have a full range of Jewish traditions represented but what does exist, the only organized group at the moment is Hillel for them. There's Christian Fellowship, Skidmore Christian Fellowship, which is a chapter of InterVarsity Christian Fellowship, which is a national and sometimes international thing, so is Hillel. And then we have a Newman club, which is for Catholic students. That has been from semester to semester more and less active. It's quite small, one of the primary functions is finding carpools to local Masses, so it's not one of the more active in terms of programming at the moment. Then when I first arrived, and still, we have Hayat, which is a cultural affinity group, not a religious affinity group. But it covers the Middle East and South East Asia and so they will do cultural events that are also religiously connected and things like Holi or a Lunar New Year's celebration sometimes, although there are also other groups who do those. Eid dinners for the Muslim community. So that also depends on who's in charge and who's interested in supporting an event, but they function in a lot of ways independently from my office and from the Office of Student Diversity Programming, but both of our offices do work with them. There's a Quaker group that is not an official club but they get together and through my office they advertise, they meet every other week and they advertise that through my office and I help make them connections with members of the local Quaker community. There are bible studies that are connected with Christian Fellowship but I think some of them are attended by folks who maybe aren't involved in the club more broadly but are interested in going to a bible study that maybe their friend is leading. There is a practicing Zen gathering that doesn't necessarily require you to be a Zen practitioner and to identify as a Zen Buddhist to attend, but there are certainly folks who attend who have been, who do identify that way, both from the community and the faculty and every once in a while some of our students as well. And then there are some students who will get together around a certain holiday or something like that. There were some Hindu students last semester who got together to go to a Temple for a particular holiday. And it was sort of under the auspices of my office, sort of under the auspices of Hayat. It will sort of be an ad hoc group for a specific purpose and then they sort of will dissolve again. I feel like I'm probably forgetting something huge right now. There are some other groups that include spirituality and spiritual connection as part of what they do and who they are, but they're less, I wouldn't call them affinity groups as much because they're going to have a much broader spectrum of beliefs within them and so, there's an inspirational choir called Rejoice, and for many of the folks there there's a spiritual component to what they're doing and what they're singing but they sing songs from many different traditions. There's a mindful movement club of students that do everything from learning modern dance movement techniques to yoga to, um, I think the circus club has done some things with them. So, again some of the folks there are regular yoga practitioners and for them that is part of a religious and or spiritual practice but it's not necessarily. And then there are the folks who come to the Skidmore mindfulness. So we have weekly meditations and yoga practices and reiki and things like that that students aren't required to or the rest of the community is not required to claim any particular tradition for nor are they likely to but they can, and many of them do express that this is a spiritual thing for them.  &#13;
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ABS: It's a pretty full list. &#13;
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PD: Yeah [laughs]. Oh! I knew I was gonna forget somebody. When I started talking about Hayat I said, you know when I got here Hayat was doing all of this and they still are, but in the past year there's also been a bigger push from some of the Muslim students to actually have a club that is expressly for Muslim students. And there's been interest in that since before I got here, but our students are so involved in so much that it takes students who aren't just interested in it but are interested in taking leadership in it. And so there are some students who have started the process of making an official club, which is fantastic. But if that doesn't happen or until that happens, our office just continues to work with some of the Muslim staff and faculty to support the Muslim students on campus.  &#13;
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ABS: Can you also just talk a little bit about how staff and faculty are present in your office, if they are, if they have a relationship to these student groups? &#13;
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PD: Sure, um, hm. How to start. There are some formal connections, so the local reform synagogue Temple Sinai, their, one of their co-rabbi's Linda Motzkin does have an official role with us as a High Holy Days chaplain. Before that she worked even more frequently, or as a more permanent, not that's not right, a more--she had a larger role at Skidmore previously, in terms of Jewish student life. And stepped back a little from that but we're very thankful she stayed on to work with us during high holy days. And part of that is that that congregation is able to use Skidmore Campus spaces for High Holy Day services where the numbers would be too much for their space. And it gives our students the gift of being able to attend services both on their campus and with a multi-generational faith community. Which I think is really wonderful. So that's been going on for years and years and years. The other connections are primarily unofficial. Although, also within the Jewish community the Saratoga Chabad works with my office to come onto campus and do table outreach basically, and also working with the Jewish student community a little bit. And then there are churches that are more likely to attract some of our students. So for instance a lot of the students involved in Christian Fellowship, or at least a decent sized group of them will carpool all to the same church on Sunday mornings. And that's not an official partnership in any way it's just a little bit of word of mouth and a little bit of common traditions and so that happens. With the Catholic churches there are two parishes in town and I've invited priests and deacons from both of them to come and do services on campus and so that'll be a wonderful way of making that connection happen. But, students can also just go wherever they'd like. And so, similarly to some of the staff connections I don't know sometimes when students are attending services in town. I like to try and find out so that if other students are looking for someone to go with I can make some introductions. And I think that's generally the same as when I was growing up, though I certainly wasn't aware of religious life at colleges. It wasn't something that I was thinking of much except that I knew the chaplain here when I was younger. And in terms of what I want to see, hyper-locally like right in Saratoga Springs, I do want to get to know more and more of the communities and the leaders. A lot of them will contact me about events and I'll try and promote those, but there's also a, I have the sense of, I'm also feeling a protection of the campus? That there are, unfortunately, always going to be religious groups that aren't--that don't necessarily have our students best interest in mind or that bring a style of communication that is aggressive in a way that I don't think a majority of our students would like. And so because of that, I've been hesitant to just put out a blanket invitation to religious groups to come to campus. I usually wait for students to express an interest in a particular community and then I will reach out. So for instance with the local Quaker community. You know they come onto campus but because there's a student interest. So I would like there to be connections. I think especially there's a lot of potential within the volunteer work and social justice side of things. A lot of our local religious communities are on the front lines of working with immigrants and refugees in the area. They're the ones that make sure that the soup kitchen is staffed and that there are, a lot of them are volunteers at the homeless shelters and so I think there are ways there to strengthen already existing partnerships. We do have students already who volunteer with all of those programs. I think we could do it more and we could do it more specifically with our religious students. And then beyond that, beyond Saratoga Springs we've had a good experience getting students to one of the mosques for some of the Eids. Or, we partnered with one of the mosques on a service project. And that's been wonderful because there are plenty of colleges and universities in the capital district. And Skidmore's small little group of students is not going to be their biggest population of young adult outreach, but it's been nice to still make those connections and I want to strengthen that as well. Yeah it's interesting because a lot of religious communities, and I'm speaking primarily out of the Christian context but I know that it's not that different in other contexts. A lot of religious communities are feeling a need to hold onto young adults with all of their might, and I've been on the leadership of communities that do this where we, we see young adults and we see numbers. We see people to keep our traditions going. And it's very self--it's very much about us as a religious community wanting to not die out, and I want to help my own church but also all of the religious communities in town approach Skidmore students with a much more giving, a much more outward looking purpose. That this is not about whether or not we get to say, "hey we've got seven college students on our lists, we're not gonna die out," or "we're really cool with the young people," but more that isn't it great that these one student or these two students are being fed by this ministry. So that's something I'd like to see happen.  &#13;
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PD: I think one of the things I'd like to see both on campus and in Saratoga, and I think there are ways to maybe make it happen as a campus community partnership, is more engagement across ideological lines of religious communities. For example you show up to certain meetings in town of religious leaders working on a particular issue and you can sort of predict who's going to be there. And it's not that they're all the same religion it's that you're pretty sure they're all the same politics, or they're all the same, you know social views on different issues. And so one of the things that's great right now that's happening is two of the churches--so the church where the freeze shelter is hosted where Code Blue is hosted, Soul Saving Station, is very different from the church that I attend, but the church that I attend is also helping out Code Blue with some office space and some overflow space and housing people when Soul Saving Station doesn't have enough room. And those two churches could not be more different ideologically or theologically and still both be called Christian. But they are [laughs], and they're both doing this. And I think that kind of partnership, and that kind of getting to know each other could be happening more at Skidmore as well and in the town as well, so that we're expanding what it means to be religious for people who have doubts about their opinions on what it is to be religious. Maybe not doubts about their opinions, doubts about people who are religious, or doubts about people who are religious in a way that is different from them. So not necessarily interfaith cooperation but even within a tradition across ideological bounds.  &#13;
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&#13;
This is the place to introduce keywords and proper names that might be of interest to researchers, but do not warrant a separate subject heading of their own. Inset maps should also be described here, with their full titles given.&#13;
&#13;
Whenever historical or explanatory information is available, it should be included here as well. This includes information about items or events that are larger than just the map itself; for example, information about cartographers, a description of the map's historical significance (for example, "This is the first printed map of Saratoga Springs"), notes on the laws leading to a map's creation, descriptions of changes in state or county lines, information about the organization that created the map, how often maps were updated, and information about the map's creation and publication. Many State Archives maps have historical information in the catalog record -- that should be captured in this field.</description>
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&#13;
This map is not just about bicycling. It encourages all sorts of outdoor movement. All over the map  sketch figures of humans (mostly women, like Skidmore's student body) and animals engage in an activity connected to an area in or around town. These include: skiing, ice skating,  golfing, walking, biking, swimming, gardening, fishing, hiking and tennis. &#13;
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With all these healthy options presented, is it surprising to learn that the mapmakers were the College's physical education (Burbeck) and drama (Wiles) teachers? (It's perhaps good news that they weren't in the English department, as the indications for "Yaddow" and the "Cemetary" attest).&#13;
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&#13;
The bicycle map tells the story of not just the needs of a small city being addressed but also the entire nation. In 1941 America entered WWII, and while most of the war was fought overseas, rations affected what American citizens could and could not use, including  gasoline, metal, rubber, and glass--all key elements in forms of transportation.  (E. Scaglia, '15)</text>
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&#13;
For maps:  (or layers) included on the map itself. This field might denote that the map includes information about, for example, Mountains, Railroads, Soundings, Elevation, or Population. These are controlled-vocabulary terms developed locally. The cataloger should be generous in assigning these terms -- even if only one canal is visible on the map, it should receive a "Canals" subject in this layer. &#13;
&#13;
Some of these terms are less specific than others and may warrant expansion in the Abstract field. For example, the "Businesses" term might be included here while the Abstract notes that the map shows mills and stores. Multiple terms can be used in this field.</description>
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Inconography--horse&#13;
Iconography--mineral springs&#13;
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Oklahoma Track (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
Greenridge Cemetery (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
Yaddo (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
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              <text> "Published by the Surveyor General, pursuant to an Act of the Legislature. Stone &amp; Clark, republishers, Ithaca, N.Y. 1840." Note 2.) Prime meridian: Washington, D.C. Note 3.) Shows flouring mills, factories, forges, saw mills, churches, parcels, and landowners. Note 4.) "Entered according to Act of Congress Jany 5th. 1829 by David H. Burr of the state of New York." Note 5.) "Entered according to Act of Congress Jany 5th. 1829 by David H. Burr of the state of New York." Note 6.) "Entered according to Act of Congress Jany 5th. 1829 by David H. Burr of the state of New York." Note 7.) "Entered according to Act of Congress Jany 5th. 1829 by David H. Burr of the state of New York."&#13;
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              <name>Title</name>
              <description>A name given to the resource</description>
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                  <text>Mapping Saratoga Springs</text>
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              <description>A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource</description>
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      <name>Map</name>
      <description>Cartographic document</description>
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          <name>Creator - Individual</name>
          <description>Name of the person or people responsible for creating the item.</description>
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              <text>Carey, A.</text>
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          <name>Date Depicted (Display)</name>
          <description>Text version of the date field -- can handle non-numeric characters (ca. 1850s, [1844]). This is the content date field that will display.</description>
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              <text>August 1935</text>
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          <name>Date Depicted (Numeric)</name>
          <description>Date that the information on the item depicts. In many cases, this will be the same date as that in the date field, but there will be exceptions. For example, a historical map drawnin 1890 might show Saratoga Springs as it was in 1820. Or, the information on the map itself might include detailed information that enables us to extrapolate a date, for example, "based on a survey done in 1841." Many State Archives map catalog records refer to this as the "situation date."</description>
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          <name>Date Published (Display)</name>
          <description>Text version of the date field -- can handle non-numeric characters (ca. 1850s, [1844]). This is the date field that will display.</description>
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          <name>Date Published (Numeric)</name>
          <description>Date the item was printed. This will be set as a date field, accommodating only numbers. The field will be able to handle single dates or date ranges. This will not display, but will be indexed and searchable.</description>
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          <description>Natural language description of the map itself, providing a general summary of the map and noting significant features. &#13;
&#13;
This is the place to introduce keywords and proper names that might be of interest to researchers, but do not warrant a separate subject heading of their own. Inset maps should also be described here, with their full titles given.&#13;
&#13;
Whenever historical or explanatory information is available, it should be included here as well. This includes information about items or events that are larger than just the map itself; for example, information about cartographers, a description of the map's historical significance (for example, "This is the first printed map of Saratoga Springs"), notes on the laws leading to a map's creation, descriptions of changes in state or county lines, information about the organization that created the map, how often maps were updated, and information about the map's creation and publication. Many State Archives maps have historical information in the catalog record -- that should be captured in this field.</description>
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              <text>A plan of the Spa State Park includes a street plan of Saratoga Springs that identifies the baths, Congerss Park, Greenridge Cemetery, Lougberry Lake, Geyser Lake and the principal routes into and out of the city ( Routes (9K, 50, 29, and 9).  Concentric circles show what is at a 1 and 2 mile radius from the city center (Congress Park).&#13;
&#13;
The reverse shows hotels and boarding houses at Saratoga Spa, indicating which serve travelers.  Categories include Hotels (9),  "Cure" Diet Available (11), Boarding Houses (3), Hotels Observing Dietary Laws (11, i.e. Jewish dietary laws), Rooming Houses (44).  Name, address, cost of weekly room/board rates (American/European plan), number of rooms, and season are included for each category.&#13;
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Signed "A. Carey." the map is likely the work of Augustine Carey, an employee of the Saratoga Springs Commission in 1934 (City Directory).</text>
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          <name>Repository</name>
          <description>Name of the repository that holds the original item.</description>
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              <text>Saratoga Room, Saratoga Springs Public Library</text>
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          <name>Scope</name>
          <description>Tiered geographical location (for example: United States, New York State, Saratoga County, Saratoga Springs, Congress Park).  This field is here for two reasons: first, to present, at its narrowest level, the scope of the entire item (in other words, not every place name has to be listed here). Second, this field will allow for accurate and helpful narrowing and broadening of geographic searches.</description>
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          <name>Type</name>
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          <description>For browsing purposes, we are borrowing and adapting themes from the Library of Congress's American Memory project.</description>
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&#13;
For maps:  (or layers) included on the map itself. This field might denote that the map includes information about, for example, Mountains, Railroads, Soundings, Elevation, or Population. These are controlled-vocabulary terms developed locally. The cataloger should be generous in assigning these terms -- even if only one canal is visible on the map, it should receive a "Canals" subject in this layer. &#13;
&#13;
Some of these terms are less specific than others and may warrant expansion in the Abstract field. For example, the "Businesses" term might be included here while the Abstract notes that the map shows mills and stores. Multiple terms can be used in this field.</description>
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              <text>Greenridge Cemetery (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
Hathorn Drink Hall (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
Roosevelt Baths (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
Lincoln Baths (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
Washington Baths (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
Gideon Putnam Hotel (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
Simon Baruch Research Institute (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
Hall of Springs (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
Bottling Plant (Spa State Park, Saratoga Springs, N.Y.)&#13;
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          <name>Subject - Geographic</name>
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&#13;
For maps: for major geographic locations depicted on the map, followed, in nearly every case, by the "Maps" genre subheading. (For example, "Saratoga Springs (N.Y.) -- Maps.") This field will be especially important when the records from this collection are incorporated into larger databases and catalogs.</description>
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          <name>Record Contributor</name>
          <description>Individual who prepared the item and/or edited it.</description>
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          <name>Record Creation Date</name>
          <description>Day/Month/Year of record creation/edit</description>
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            <name>Title</name>
            <description>A name given to the resource</description>
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        <name>Corporation Line</name>
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